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I dunno if it's truly irrelevant, didn't a celebrity spin out of control in a backyard and break his back at less than that? https://www.theguardian.com/media

I dunno if it's truly irrelevant, didn't a celebrity spin out of control in a backyard and break his back at less than that? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/aug/09/simon-cowell-breaks-back-falling-off-electric-bike-in-us https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/aug/09/simon-cowell-b... I think part of it may be familiarity perhaps, which I assume is higher in Euroworld.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
It turns out that wasn't an e-bike, it was an electric motorcycle capable of 60 mph.
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  Nancy the Van Seat, a comfy DIY e-couch conversion vehicle created at the Stupid Fun Club, had tremendously overpowered electric motors, a handheld remote control, could turn on a dime, but had no seatbelts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXG4gQ2FWI&ab_channel=DigitalNaturalismLaboratories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXG4gQ2FWI&ab_channel=Digit...
daveoc64 5y ago
No. That would not even remotely be classed as an electronic bike in the EU. It is far too powerful for that. His electric motorcycle had a top speed of 60 mph (97 km/h) and a motor power of 15 kW. The legal limits for a pedelec cycle in the EU are a maximum assisted speed of 15.5 mph (25km/h) and a motor of no more than 250w. The motor in Simon Cowell's electric motorcycle is 60 times as powerful as the legal limit in the EU
- stevenicr 5y ago
  thanks for this info! When I first read the story I had assumed the accident occurred at very slow speed or full stop and mashing the throttle - so the 60mph v 25 would not have been something I would consider.. but 15kW vs 250w - now this is something that makes sense in this scenario for sure! glad to have learned to eye this metric for this.
  - ohmaigad 5y ago
    The issue is naming - term e-bike is used for everything while most if not all consumer "e-bikes" are actually pedelecs (no throttle, limited to 25kph and 250W, assisting only when pedalling). Every other e-bike is classified as moped/motorcycle which might require licence plate, registration and insurance. At least it should be like that in EU.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago

It turns out that wasn't an e-bike, it was an electric motorcycle capable of 60 mph.

DonHopkins 5y ago
Nancy the Van Seat, a comfy DIY e-couch conversion vehicle created at the Stupid Fun Club, had tremendously overpowered electric motors, a handheld remote control, could turn on a dime, but had no seatbelts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXG4gQ2FWI&ab_channel=DigitalNaturalismLaboratories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXG4gQ2FWI&ab_channel=Digit...

daveoc64 5y ago

No. That would not even remotely be classed as an electronic bike in the EU. It is far too powerful for that. His electric motorcycle had a top speed of 60 mph (97 km/h) and a motor power of 15 kW. The legal limits for a pedelec cycle in the EU are a maximum assisted speed of 15.5 mph (25km/h) and a motor of no more than 250w. The motor in Simon Cowell's electric motorcycle is 60 times as powerful as the legal limit in the EU

stevenicr 5y ago
thanks for this info! When I first read the story I had assumed the accident occurred at very slow speed or full stop and mashing the throttle - so the 60mph v 25 would not have been something I would consider.. but 15kW vs 250w - now this is something that makes sense in this scenario for sure! glad to have learned to eye this metric for this.
- ohmaigad 5y ago
  The issue is naming - term e-bike is used for everything while most if not all consumer "e-bikes" are actually pedelecs (no throttle, limited to 25kph and 250W, assisting only when pedalling). Every other e-bike is classified as moped/motorcycle which might require licence plate, registration and insurance. At least it should be like that in EU.