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Thank you for pointing that out: 10x. An order of magnitude difference in deaths. Plus, it just makes common-sense that if people cannot meet other people, tha

Thank you for pointing that out: 10x. An order of magnitude difference in deaths. Plus, it just makes common-sense that if people cannot meet other people, that prevents the spread of the disease. No? That makes common sense, and then we see 10x difference in deaths. The Occam's razor explanation for the reason of 10x bigger death rate then is .. lack of lockdown! Anybody arguing otherwise seems suspect of political calculus, in my view.

mikem170 5y ago
That would make sense, except for the countries that did lock down and did worse. It would help a lot to have a satisfactory explanation for that, too. Geography by itself is not enough to eliminate the doubt sown by that contradiction.
- thebruce87m 5y ago
  Timing. I sat in the UK for weeks looking at what was happening in Italy and wondering why we weren’t doing anything at all.
  - mikem170 5y ago
    Yeah, the lockdowns in the UK were interesting, particularly were they would announce them ahead of time, giving everyone time to travel and/or bar hop. I also thought it was interesting that the delta wave seemed to disappear in the UK without the benefit of lockdowns. The same in India. The same in India. I've been wondering if these waves of infections come and go without much regard for typical lockdown measures (outside of full-on communist China and New Zealand lockdowns, which may not be practical in most other places).
    - galaxyLogic 5y ago
      It's not over till it's over. "U.S. (Civid-19) deaths in the week ending Monday totaled 7,225. By comparison, about 5,400 Americans died in the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 attacks combined. " https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-driven-surge-in-us-enters-deadlier-phase-and-who-s-dying-is-changing-latest-covid-19-updates/ar-AANFBtK?ocid=winp1taskbar&fbclid=IwAR1oKrmf6kJKIu5b8bTMugYbZLeYiUbC16U3JVOWM2VdLAoeaVVv9ImgEvY https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-driven-surge-in-us-e...
    - thebruce87m 5y ago
      I’m not sure that it is disappearing - in Scotland today we have the highest number of recorded cases since the pandemic began. Schools just returned last week too so that won’t help.
      - breakfastduck 5y ago
        The number of cases has never been less relevant than when the majority of the country has been vaccinated.
        thebruce87m 5y ago
        It’s relevant to people who haven’t been vaccinated yet. I’m 37 and I’m only just passed the 2 weeks cool-off of my second jab.

mikem170 5y ago

That would make sense, except for the countries that did lock down and did worse. It would help a lot to have a satisfactory explanation for that, too. Geography by itself is not enough to eliminate the doubt sown by that contradiction.

thebruce87m 5y ago
Timing. I sat in the UK for weeks looking at what was happening in Italy and wondering why we weren’t doing anything at all.
- mikem170 5y ago
  Yeah, the lockdowns in the UK were interesting, particularly were they would announce them ahead of time, giving everyone time to travel and/or bar hop. I also thought it was interesting that the delta wave seemed to disappear in the UK without the benefit of lockdowns. The same in India. The same in India. I've been wondering if these waves of infections come and go without much regard for typical lockdown measures (outside of full-on communist China and New Zealand lockdowns, which may not be practical in most other places).
  - galaxyLogic 5y ago
    It's not over till it's over. "U.S. (Civid-19) deaths in the week ending Monday totaled 7,225. By comparison, about 5,400 Americans died in the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 attacks combined. " https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-driven-surge-in-us-enters-deadlier-phase-and-who-s-dying-is-changing-latest-covid-19-updates/ar-AANFBtK?ocid=winp1taskbar&fbclid=IwAR1oKrmf6kJKIu5b8bTMugYbZLeYiUbC16U3JVOWM2VdLAoeaVVv9ImgEvY https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-driven-surge-in-us-e...
  - thebruce87m 5y ago
    I’m not sure that it is disappearing - in Scotland today we have the highest number of recorded cases since the pandemic began. Schools just returned last week too so that won’t help.
    - breakfastduck 5y ago
      The number of cases has never been less relevant than when the majority of the country has been vaccinated.
      - thebruce87m 5y ago
        It’s relevant to people who haven’t been vaccinated yet. I’m 37 and I’m only just passed the 2 weeks cool-off of my second jab.