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> it bristles It seems to me that you're taking this too personally. First of all, the person you're responding to wasn't even talking to you or about you when

by hcta 5y ago

> it bristles It seems to me that you're taking this too personally. First of all, the person you're responding to wasn't even talking to you or about you when they wrote the "Just because you don't understand..." line, so you're out here taking offense on behalf of everyone who posits the existence of unnecessary jobs. (#NotAllPeopleWhoPositUnnecessaryJobs?) Taking "personal truth" out of the equation, as an impartial observer, reading the assertion on the part of a username on HN I don't recognize that useless jobs exist is insignificant evidence in support of that hypothesis - exactly the same as if I heard someone I don't know claiming they saw bigfoot or UFOs. To improve the situation, you could provide supporting details about the examples of useless jobs you have seen.

cxr 5y ago
> It seems to me that you're taking this too personally. Assume that I'm not. (I'm not, and it seems surprising to me that it seems that way.) > "personal truth" I don't recognize this as a term, and really, I'm just not interested in any discussion about the other things you've mentioned: usernames not recognized, who was talking to whom, advice about improving my situation, and so on. This is both too meta and in a direction that doesn't pique my curiosity.
- hcta 5y ago
  > Assume that I'm not. (I'm not, and it seems surprising to me that it seems that way.) Fine - maybe I misread simple annoyance as personal offense. > I'm just not interested in any discussion about the other things you've mentioned: usernames not recognized, who was talking to whom, advice about improving my situation, and so on. What I said wasn't really about any of those things, so let me try again. Your response here > > Just because you don't understand the necessity of middle management or "paper pushers" doesn't mean they're not necessary. > This is presumptuous. Having worked in groups where I understood my job and the jobs of my coworkers who held the same position as me at least as well as they understood their jobs themselves: unnecessary paper pushers exist. struck me as a thoroughly unproductive way to debate. You made a bare claim to have seen something that others allege to be rare. Obviously the fact that you have seen it is enough evidence for you, but it shouldn't move the needle on anyone else's state of belief. Therefore, IMHO, it's not a useful contribution. When I said improve the situation, I was not giving "advice about improving [your] situation"; I meant improving the quality of discussion. [tone edited]
  - cxr 5y ago
    You decided to persist, but this is still too meta with respect to the actual topic at hand, and still not interesting. [And there's too much logical inconsistency (and blind hostility) here besides.] This is my last comment here.
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by hcta 5y ago

cxr 5y ago

> It seems to me that you're taking this too personally. Assume that I'm not. (I'm not, and it seems surprising to me that it seems that way.) > "personal truth" I don't recognize this as a term, and really, I'm just not interested in any discussion about the other things you've mentioned: usernames not recognized, who was talking to whom, advice about improving my situation, and so on. This is both too meta and in a direction that doesn't pique my curiosity.

hcta 5y ago
> Assume that I'm not. (I'm not, and it seems surprising to me that it seems that way.) Fine - maybe I misread simple annoyance as personal offense. > I'm just not interested in any discussion about the other things you've mentioned: usernames not recognized, who was talking to whom, advice about improving my situation, and so on. What I said wasn't really about any of those things, so let me try again. Your response here > > Just because you don't understand the necessity of middle management or "paper pushers" doesn't mean they're not necessary. > This is presumptuous. Having worked in groups where I understood my job and the jobs of my coworkers who held the same position as me at least as well as they understood their jobs themselves: unnecessary paper pushers exist. struck me as a thoroughly unproductive way to debate. You made a bare claim to have seen something that others allege to be rare. Obviously the fact that you have seen it is enough evidence for you, but it shouldn't move the needle on anyone else's state of belief. Therefore, IMHO, it's not a useful contribution. When I said improve the situation, I was not giving "advice about improving [your] situation"; I meant improving the quality of discussion. [tone edited]
- cxr 5y ago
  You decided to persist, but this is still too meta with respect to the actual topic at hand, and still not interesting. [And there's too much logical inconsistency (and blind hostility) here besides.] This is my last comment here.
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