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Yeah this is a meme that surfaces every few years spontaneously irregardless of the field or discipline. "Oh no we are being oppressed for not following the [cu
by dluan 5y ago
Yeah this is a meme that surfaces every few years spontaneously irregardless of the field or discipline. "Oh no we are being oppressed for not following the [current mainstream boogeyman idea], only we the true freethinkers are aware of the danger and must warn blah blah". Usually too it is some former soviet person.
> Whereas in 1950, the greater good was advancing the World Revolution (in the USSR; in the USA the greater good meant fighting Communism), in 2021 the greater good is “Social Justice” (the capitalization is important: “Social Justice” is a specific ideology, with goals that have little in common with what lower-case “social justice” means in plain English).
It's just astonishing that it's so reliable even in 2021, so far removed from the cold war, that the journal editors still feel the need to stir the pot this way. Younger scientists don't care about this, lmao.
Science is inherently a political process, and this author seems to lack the self awareness of how her own bias has influenced her.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoScience is a process of measuring cause and effect. What you decide to study using the scientific method might be political, but to call science political seems like a lazy use of language.
- dluan 5y agoYes, hmm, let's use this consensus algorithm called "just producing data". Look up the information deficit model please.
- dang 5y agoWould you please not take HN threads further into flamewar? If you know more than other people, it's great to share some of what you know so the rest of us can learn. Snarky dismissals, on the other hand, are not ok. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- naasking 5y ago> Usually too it is some former soviet person. Sure, what would a former Soviet scientist have to inform us about about the dangers of politics interfering in the scientific process. Not like they have a history of jailing scientists who don't tow the party line, of bright scientists defecting to enemies to escape oppression, of politics dictating what academic conclusions are and are not permitted. > Science is inherently a political process, and this author seems to lack the self awareness of how her own bias has influenced her. Or maybe that bias yields some useful historical lessons worth learning from, rather than simply dismissing it as "bias".
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- teeray 5y ago> Science is inherently a political process Nothing could be further from the truth. Nowhere in the scientific method does it say that you need to be smart, or have a fancy degree from an esteemed university, or that your results must be published and affirmed by The Correct People in appropriate scientific journals. If you prove or disprove hypotheses by collecting data from experiments you design in a reproducible way, you’re doing science. The result of that is objective truth. What the political machinery decided to do with that objective truth is entirely independent of the process of science.