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The Telegraph is essentially the mouthpiece of the British commercial property landlord classes, who have a vested interest in getting people back into the offi
by danjac 5y ago
The Telegraph is essentially the mouthpiece of the British commercial property landlord classes, who have a vested interest in getting people back into the offices and shops in their portfolios. On an average day you'll notice multiple anti-remote working articles parroted by Cabinet ministers. Why should they care how businesses conduct their business, especially if it's more convenient and can lead to a happier and more efficient workforce? Follow the money.
It used to be - many years ago - a stodgy and conservative yet reputable newspaper (they fired Boris Johnson for lying, now he moonlights as a columnist). As with other newspapers (e.g. WSJ) it went off the deep end a long time ago.
- corney91 5y agoIt was The Times that fired Boris Johnson for lying, The Telegraph hired him after that. They have gone off the deep end though. Some good coverage of The Telegraph's fall in standards is Peter Oborne's resignation letter: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/why-i-have-...
- hkt 5y agoIt continues to astonish me how far the telegraph (and conservatism generally) has left people like Oborne behind. Really quite something to behold, and pretty deeply alarming.
- bluGill 5y agoIs there anyplace a conservative can find real news anymore?
- mhh__ 5y agoAnywhere reputable. For example, I read the guardian pretty much everyday, and various other papers, even though although culturally I am a proper grauniad-reader type, politically I am not - but by virtue of actually reading the articles text you can actually (believe it or not?) determine both the facts and the flavour separately.
- lmm 5y agoBe careful. It takes conscious effort to read sceptically; whenever your attention slips you'll find yourself absorbing the views the writer wants you to.
- nl 5y agoFinancial Times is pretty good, and definitely not liberal.
- danjac 5y agoYes, that's correct - by Max Hastings, who said of Johnson, "don't trust this man with your wife or your wallet". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-...
- avmich 5y ago> The Telegraph is essentially the mouthpiece of the British commercial property landlord classes, who have a vested interest in getting people back into the offices and shops in their portfolios. I'm curious, how does it work in reality? A boardroom meetings where landlord's representative decide what to publish in the next issue to get people into commercial property? A weekly reviews of editors where they have their KPI tied to how well they lure people into buildings? Phone calls from commercial union leaders to publishing houses asking for specific results? Do we have some good articles which would describe mechanics of that or is it all successful clandestine operations?
- AndyPa32 5y agoMore like a boardroom full of landlords, I guess.
- johnny53169 5y agoIf you're part of a small group of people, it's easy to call your buddy when something bother you or a point of view you don't like gets published
- guerrilla 5y agoMicromanging is not necessary. They just set the tone and don't hire people who would write anything opposed to their policy [1] which they rarely need to explicitly convey, although they do at times of course. People write things that they really like get rewarded. "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky explains how this work with a very large number of examples. 1. https://youtu.be/9RPKH6BVcoM https://youtu.be/9RPKH6BVcoM 2. https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/ https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Econo...
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoExactly. Internet commenters love to think their enemy's minions are stupid. In reality they're just as smart as you are and don't need to be specifically told what the people in charge do and don't want published and/or what tone they should take.
- hkt 5y agoWhere I live in Yorkshire we call it Tory Pravda. It seems to just be propelled ever onwards by contrarianism.
- poulsbohemian 5y agoI'm glad to see someone call out the WSJ... I was a subscriber for many years and it was a conservative yet outstanding source of information. Today it's crap, yet still trades on its historic reputation. Really breaks my heart as I've not been able to find a replacement.
- malloryerik 5y agoWhat about the Financial Times and Bloomberg?
- lmm 5y agoBloomberg has major problems; they have no proper separation between advertising and editorial (a high-profile article on corruption in the Chinese government, following up on an article that had narrowly missed out on the Pulitzer the year before, was spiked in what very much appeared to be a move to protect Bloomberg terminal sales in China), and they still haven't retracted (or clearly stated that they're standing behind) their dubious "hack chip" story.
- nl 5y ago> their dubious "hack chip" story It shocks me that people believe manufacturer denials on this particular issue but still claim to be immune to commercial propaganda. It's unlikely there will ever be undeniable proof available to the general public one way or the other on this. But the story was well sourced, was definitely technical credible and the parts that could be checked all checked out. Literally the only thing against it was manufacturer statements saying "nah". But follow up articles have expanded that, and are starting to name people who say they have seen evidence now: https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_spying/ https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_... In particular, check out page 71 of [1], where a former US Marine testifies under oath in a federal case about a similar things happening with Lenovo laptops in 2008 in Iraq. Quote: A large amount of Lenovo laptops were sold to the US military that had a chip encrypted on the motherboard that would record all the data that was being inputted into that laptop and send it back to China. [1] https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r9dKMMM0Gi5I/v0 https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/r9dKMMM0...
- narrator 5y agoMeta related, but this so perfectly fits my previous comment on the trend these days in "political debate": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28250033 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28250033