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NHTSA keeps mandating new tech crap in cars on extremely questionable putatively utilitarian models. Infotainment systems are effectively mandatory now. The rec

by wyager 5y ago

NHTSA keeps mandating new tech crap in cars on extremely questionable putatively utilitarian models. Infotainment systems are effectively mandatory now. The recent "infrastructure" bill also included language about investigating mandatory DUI-detection technology in new cars. Getting a vehicle without cellular is going to be impossible soon. My 2020 Tacoma (a pretty bare-bones pickup) even has a cellular modem.

akomtu 5y ago
Just disconnect the antenna?
- wyager 5y ago
  It throws an error code, meaning you fail inspection in many states.
  - akomtu 5y ago
    I didn't know there are such inspections.
- csunbird 5y ago
  Cellular is required for the car to be able to automatically call emergency services in case of an accident. It is mandatory for new cars in Europe for a while.
  - akomtu 5y ago
    So it's like a Japanese sword? You carry it all your life to use it once? Except that the European sword spys on its owner. Dump it.
hellbannedguy 5y ago
I sometimes wonder if government really wants to end DUI's. I know it sounds crazy. I just see the amount of money marginal dui's bring into counties. I might buy a vechicle that didn't let me drive if over .08%. I would love to be able to drive after 10:30 pm, without a cop tailing me, looking for a marginal dui. (In Marin County, don't drive through here after 10:30 pm. Cops gave literally nothing to do, except look for marginal dui's. There used to be a app called Trapster, but it was never implemented properly. You might get a pass on a pull over if you look wealthy though. Wealthy Ross/Kentfield guys never seem to get any "fishing" pullovers. No--I have never had a dui. I just know how these cops operate. I'm getting tired of poor people being singled out too. I mentioned my county, because I know a few of you guys live here.)
- 8note 5y ago
  If they really wanted to get rid of DUIs, places would be designed in a way that discouraged it Requiring cars to get around ensures DUIs will happen
- Sebguer 5y ago
  The incentives between the federal government and local police departments probably aren't aligned here, but they're probably not aligned in a lot of other places, too.

by wyager 5y ago

akomtu 5y ago

Just disconnect the antenna?

wyager 5y ago
It throws an error code, meaning you fail inspection in many states.
- akomtu 5y ago
  I didn't know there are such inspections.
csunbird 5y ago
Cellular is required for the car to be able to automatically call emergency services in case of an accident. It is mandatory for new cars in Europe for a while.
- akomtu 5y ago
  So it's like a Japanese sword? You carry it all your life to use it once? Except that the European sword spys on its owner. Dump it.

hellbannedguy 5y ago

I sometimes wonder if government really wants to end DUI's. I know it sounds crazy. I just see the amount of money marginal dui's bring into counties. I might buy a vechicle that didn't let me drive if over .08%. I would love to be able to drive after 10:30 pm, without a cop tailing me, looking for a marginal dui. (In Marin County, don't drive through here after 10:30 pm. Cops gave literally nothing to do, except look for marginal dui's. There used to be a app called Trapster, but it was never implemented properly. You might get a pass on a pull over if you look wealthy though. Wealthy Ross/Kentfield guys never seem to get any "fishing" pullovers. No--I have never had a dui. I just know how these cops operate. I'm getting tired of poor people being singled out too. I mentioned my county, because I know a few of you guys live here.)

8note 5y ago
If they really wanted to get rid of DUIs, places would be designed in a way that discouraged it Requiring cars to get around ensures DUIs will happen
Sebguer 5y ago
The incentives between the federal government and local police departments probably aren't aligned here, but they're probably not aligned in a lot of other places, too.