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I work in the area. I would say the static stuff that’s hard is stuff that’s also hard for human drivers, like poor lane markers or ambiguous signage. So I’m no

by arijun 5y ago

I work in the area. I would say the static stuff that’s hard is stuff that’s also hard for human drivers, like poor lane markers or ambiguous signage. So I’m not sure that QR codes will help—-just fix the signage.

sharken 5y ago
That makes a lot of sense, on a highway with three lanes, I'm always making sure to not merge to the middle lane, if there is a car on the opposite lane, to name another situation. The hard question which really has nothing to do with the tech, is what we do if a self driving car kills a person. Made worse if the accident could be avoided by the majority of human drivers.
- trhway 5y ago
  >The hard question which really has nothing to do with the tech, is what we do if a self driving car kills a person. Made worse if the accident could be avoided by the majority of human drivers. we have already had exactly such a case - Uber. Even though Uber was totally negligent, nothing happened to them, beside probably some settlement behind the scene. In part they were able to wiggle it by showing a bad dynamic range video (which is completely different from how human eyes see in such situation) there the victim appears as if out of nowhere. I think that case just sets the pattern that the autonomous vehicles will not be judged according to human driver standard.
  - UncleEntity 5y ago
    Nah, they just threw the safety driver under the bus…apparently being charged with (negligent?) homicide. Buying a governor really payed off for them it turned out.
    - sharken 5y ago
      Quite right, the Uber case is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54175359 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54175359 So what happens with the human driver (you) if the same accident happens ? If the Uber case sets the standard, then negligent homicide is a likely charge. The sentence for that in the US is "A minimum of 4 years in prison and up to a maximum of 8 years in prison" according to this link: https://www.feldmanroyle.com/homicide/negligent-homicide/ https://www.feldmanroyle.com/homicide/negligent-homicide/ You better hope you can explain it was a bug in the software in this situation.

by arijun 5y ago

sharken 5y ago

That makes a lot of sense, on a highway with three lanes, I'm always making sure to not merge to the middle lane, if there is a car on the opposite lane, to name another situation. The hard question which really has nothing to do with the tech, is what we do if a self driving car kills a person. Made worse if the accident could be avoided by the majority of human drivers.

trhway 5y ago
>The hard question which really has nothing to do with the tech, is what we do if a self driving car kills a person. Made worse if the accident could be avoided by the majority of human drivers. we have already had exactly such a case - Uber. Even though Uber was totally negligent, nothing happened to them, beside probably some settlement behind the scene. In part they were able to wiggle it by showing a bad dynamic range video (which is completely different from how human eyes see in such situation) there the victim appears as if out of nowhere. I think that case just sets the pattern that the autonomous vehicles will not be judged according to human driver standard.
- UncleEntity 5y ago
  Nah, they just threw the safety driver under the bus…apparently being charged with (negligent?) homicide. Buying a governor really payed off for them it turned out.
  - sharken 5y ago
    Quite right, the Uber case is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54175359 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54175359 So what happens with the human driver (you) if the same accident happens ? If the Uber case sets the standard, then negligent homicide is a likely charge. The sentence for that in the US is "A minimum of 4 years in prison and up to a maximum of 8 years in prison" according to this link: https://www.feldmanroyle.com/homicide/negligent-homicide/ https://www.feldmanroyle.com/homicide/negligent-homicide/ You better hope you can explain it was a bug in the software in this situation.