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There is no strict laws on foreign ownership, most of the time this falls under the idea that people/foreigners think owning land gives you a right to reside in

There is no strict laws on foreign ownership, most of the time this falls under the idea that people/foreigners think owning land gives you a right to reside in the country. It does not. Then not knowing procedures or having a Hanko is extremely detrimental to doing any paperwork in Japan. Internet is not an issue, NTT will give you internet within 3 months, and there is always unlimited 4g/5g subscriptions. Being in the Inaka is an experience itself, and you need to know the language. I agree.

CobaltFire 5y ago
Given that these require residency, there is a defacto restriction on ownership for those without the means to get a long term visa or residency permit. I was not aware of NTT getting you internet; thanks for that info! I seem to recall the wireless unlimited plans being rather expensive, but it's been a while. Yes, Japanese government is it's own special issue. Hanko being an always fun issue for people! I absolutely LOVE being in the Inaka. When my in-laws shut down their business they moved a little ways out, and we regularly visit their family friends in the mountains at their Onsen, which is a solid 40 minutes from anyone else at all.
- rootsudo 5y ago
  Yep, as long as you have utilities, then you can get NTT Fiber. It is much easier if it has a pre-existing phone line active, or sometime per-existing. Considering these properties were most likely occupied during the 1970's-1990's, a phone line most likely is present so it is on the "books" as serviceable. If not, you get the phone line service first if you must. Alternatively you can also look in TOWNPAGE for the address and see if it shows up.
- fomine3 5y ago
  NTT Flets coverage is really good since they'll replace PSTN by FTTH. Wireless unlimited (*with speed limit for heavy users) internet is now affordable thanks to 5G plan.
derefr 5y ago
Parent comment said "restrictions" on ownership by foreigners, not "laws". The "restrictions" are semi-informal, barriers put in place as needed, in the form of a bunch of extra costly-to-satisfy red tape that isn't usually insisted upon, but which becomes a "must have" if you're someone the local Japanese-nationalist NIMBYs don't want living there. (I would note that white people aren't likely to be hardest-hit by these "restrictions." Consider which ethnic groups an elderly Japanese person would remember directly fighting against in a previous war. Those same elderly Japanese people now form the inaka's governments, so AFAICT those same ethnic groups are most resisted.)
- hallarempt 5y ago
  The second world war ended 75 years ago. There aren't that many people still alive who actually _fought directly_ in that war. Not even in notoriously long-lived Japan.
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  - derefr 5y ago
    To clarify, by "directly fighting against" I meant "there were battles in which Japanese forces actually engaged [other country]'s forces" rather than just "Japan was in one big alliance and [other country] was in an opposed big alliance." That's the specific set of countries Japan holds higher levels of lingering xenophobia toward. You're right, in that the people holding grudges today aren't likely to have directly experienced these events, but more likely are those who saw their fathers/brothers shipped to the front and never return, and so who hold a vague-but-strong grudge against whatever nebulous enemy the Japanese propaganda machine represented as being on the other side of those particular battles. (Sadly, this can be a stronger foundation for xenophobia than actually having fought an enemy corps-a-corps, as these folks have never actually been exposed to the experience of seeing enemy soldiers hurting/dying, grieving, wishing they weren't at the front, and just generally being human.)
  - oblio 5y ago
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/18/national/number-people-aged-90-older-tops-2-million-first-time-japan/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/18/national/number... You were saying? 2+ million 90 year olds in Japan. Maybe not old enough to have fought in the war, but definitely old enough to remember the bombings, for example.
hellbannedguy 5y ago
All I know for sure is in America anyone from any country can buy our land, and homes. Absolutely no requirements besides an email, and money. (I don't understand why their isn't more of an uproar, especially when the stock is so low to begin with, and housing is our biggest expense.)
- oblio 5y ago
  > I don't understand why their isn't more of an uproar, especially when the stock is so low to begin with, and housing is our biggest expense. When in doubt, think money. It's always money.

CobaltFire 5y ago

Given that these require residency, there is a defacto restriction on ownership for those without the means to get a long term visa or residency permit. I was not aware of NTT getting you internet; thanks for that info! I seem to recall the wireless unlimited plans being rather expensive, but it's been a while. Yes, Japanese government is it's own special issue. Hanko being an always fun issue for people! I absolutely LOVE being in the Inaka. When my in-laws shut down their business they moved a little ways out, and we regularly visit their family friends in the mountains at their Onsen, which is a solid 40 minutes from anyone else at all.

rootsudo 5y ago
Yep, as long as you have utilities, then you can get NTT Fiber. It is much easier if it has a pre-existing phone line active, or sometime per-existing. Considering these properties were most likely occupied during the 1970's-1990's, a phone line most likely is present so it is on the "books" as serviceable. If not, you get the phone line service first if you must. Alternatively you can also look in TOWNPAGE for the address and see if it shows up.
fomine3 5y ago
NTT Flets coverage is really good since they'll replace PSTN by FTTH. Wireless unlimited (*with speed limit for heavy users) internet is now affordable thanks to 5G plan.

derefr 5y ago

Parent comment said "restrictions" on ownership by foreigners, not "laws". The "restrictions" are semi-informal, barriers put in place as needed, in the form of a bunch of extra costly-to-satisfy red tape that isn't usually insisted upon, but which becomes a "must have" if you're someone the local Japanese-nationalist NIMBYs don't want living there. (I would note that white people aren't likely to be hardest-hit by these "restrictions." Consider which ethnic groups an elderly Japanese person would remember directly fighting against in a previous war. Those same elderly Japanese people now form the inaka's governments, so AFAICT those same ethnic groups are most resisted.)

hallarempt 5y ago
The second world war ended 75 years ago. There aren't that many people still alive who actually _fought directly_ in that war. Not even in notoriously long-lived Japan.
- deleted 5y ago
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- derefr 5y ago
  To clarify, by "directly fighting against" I meant "there were battles in which Japanese forces actually engaged [other country]'s forces" rather than just "Japan was in one big alliance and [other country] was in an opposed big alliance." That's the specific set of countries Japan holds higher levels of lingering xenophobia toward. You're right, in that the people holding grudges today aren't likely to have directly experienced these events, but more likely are those who saw their fathers/brothers shipped to the front and never return, and so who hold a vague-but-strong grudge against whatever nebulous enemy the Japanese propaganda machine represented as being on the other side of those particular battles. (Sadly, this can be a stronger foundation for xenophobia than actually having fought an enemy corps-a-corps, as these folks have never actually been exposed to the experience of seeing enemy soldiers hurting/dying, grieving, wishing they weren't at the front, and just generally being human.)
- oblio 5y ago
  https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/18/national/number-people-aged-90-older-tops-2-million-first-time-japan/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/18/national/number... You were saying? 2+ million 90 year olds in Japan. Maybe not old enough to have fought in the war, but definitely old enough to remember the bombings, for example.

hellbannedguy 5y ago

All I know for sure is in America anyone from any country can buy our land, and homes. Absolutely no requirements besides an email, and money. (I don't understand why their isn't more of an uproar, especially when the stock is so low to begin with, and housing is our biggest expense.)

oblio 5y ago
> I don't understand why their isn't more of an uproar, especially when the stock is so low to begin with, and housing is our biggest expense. When in doubt, think money. It's always money.