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When I see insiders in the industry adopting new technology, while a commenter with no background in the tech says it's terrible.. I'll generally believe the in

When I see insiders in the industry adopting new technology, while a commenter with no background in the tech says it's terrible.. I'll generally believe the industry experts. Tesla has presold hundreds of these trucks to walmart, fedex, etc. The question is what did he miss... Here's the first big mistake I think he made in the video at 3:45. He pulls this "1 to 20" number out of no where to come up with a battery weight of 17t. But we know a 600kwh battery is 8000lbs.[0] This article also mentions that the max legal payload is increased by 2000lbs for ev trucks... meaning the payload is going to be very close to a gas truck. 0. https://insideevs.com/news/525765/tesla-semi-payload-comparable-diesel/ https://insideevs.com/news/525765/tesla-semi-payload-compara...

RobinL 5y ago
Thanks, I was curious about that. Key quote for others: > [...] Tesla would need a 600 kWh to 1,000 kWh battery pack to produce the Semi’s 300-mile (483-km) and 500-mile (805-km) variants. Since a 600 kWh pack weighs about 8,000 pounds (3,629 kg), it would eat into payload as Class 8 trucks have a total weight capacity limit of 80,000 pounds (36,287 kg). That would mean 6050kg for the 500 mile range. The video estimates it at 17t
- mcguire 5y ago
  Technically, the video assumes the Tesla would have the same range as a diesel tractor.
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ErikVandeWater 5y ago
> But we know a 600kwh battery is 8000lbs. From your own source it says 600kwh will only go 300 miles. Trucks are too big to use the existing supercharger network so a new one will have to be built for the truck to get any substantial distance. > I'll generally go with the industry experts. Tesla has presold hundreds of these trucks to walmart, fedex, etc. Do you have details on the terms of these deals? Dollars to donuts these companies can opt out without penalty. This is just a mutual marketing scheme between Tesla trying to seem like an industry leader and these companies trying to seem green.

RobinL 5y ago

Thanks, I was curious about that. Key quote for others: > [...] Tesla would need a 600 kWh to 1,000 kWh battery pack to produce the Semi’s 300-mile (483-km) and 500-mile (805-km) variants. Since a 600 kWh pack weighs about 8,000 pounds (3,629 kg), it would eat into payload as Class 8 trucks have a total weight capacity limit of 80,000 pounds (36,287 kg). That would mean 6050kg for the 500 mile range. The video estimates it at 17t

mcguire 5y ago
Technically, the video assumes the Tesla would have the same range as a diesel tractor.

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ErikVandeWater 5y ago

> But we know a 600kwh battery is 8000lbs. From your own source it says 600kwh will only go 300 miles. Trucks are too big to use the existing supercharger network so a new one will have to be built for the truck to get any substantial distance. > I'll generally go with the industry experts. Tesla has presold hundreds of these trucks to walmart, fedex, etc. Do you have details on the terms of these deals? Dollars to donuts these companies can opt out without penalty. This is just a mutual marketing scheme between Tesla trying to seem like an industry leader and these companies trying to seem green.