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> would call that “same difference”. As much as they might want, Google cant scan local phone files with server side code... Apple on the other hand just has

> would call that “same difference”. As much as they might want, Google cant scan local phone files with server side code... Apple on the other hand just has to break a small pinky promise, code and infra is already there. See the difference? One is relying on a pinky promise, one is knowing they cant if you dont upload. > If you’re running stock android you’re running a closed OS Here's the source code: https://source.android.com/ https://source.android.com/ What parts are closed source? How does this compare to Apple where everything is closed source? > because you can’t know what other code google added onto it. There are security researchers you know? the shitstorm that would appear on funny business will rival the one you see now.

foobar33333 5y ago
Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. In this day and age, if you don't trust your phone vendor with your data, you shouldn't be using it. They can do anything at any time and you wouldn't know. Even if there is no tracking code on your phone at this moment, they can put it on at any time. Can't find the news article anymore but there was an incident where Google accidentally turned on airplane mode for every pixel at once via their remote control tools.
- adriancr 5y ago
  > Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. Apple does too, its called software updates. Here's the deal: - Google could develop software/infrastructure to scan on your phone client side. - Apple has it deployed already.
  - zepto 5y ago
    > Here's the deal: > - Google could develop software/infrastructure to scan on your phone client side. > - Apple has it deployed already. This is just false. What Apple has deployed doesn’t do anything nefarious, and is not easily repurposed. Both companies would need to deploy a new mechanism via software update.
    - adriancr 5y ago
      > and is not easily repurposed. Seems like it's very easily repurposed since it's already activated (by mistake?) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28285567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28285567
- miles 5y ago
  > Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. Not all Pixel devices; mine doesn't even have Play services installed: https://calyxos.org https://calyxos.org https://grapheneos.org https://grapheneos.org https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28090024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28090024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20148771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20148771

foobar33333 5y ago

Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. In this day and age, if you don't trust your phone vendor with your data, you shouldn't be using it. They can do anything at any time and you wouldn't know. Even if there is no tracking code on your phone at this moment, they can put it on at any time. Can't find the news article anymore but there was an incident where Google accidentally turned on airplane mode for every pixel at once via their remote control tools.

adriancr 5y ago
> Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. Apple does too, its called software updates. Here's the deal: - Google could develop software/infrastructure to scan on your phone client side. - Apple has it deployed already.
- zepto 5y ago
  > Here's the deal: > - Google could develop software/infrastructure to scan on your phone client side. > - Apple has it deployed already. This is just false. What Apple has deployed doesn’t do anything nefarious, and is not easily repurposed. Both companies would need to deploy a new mechanism via software update.
  - adriancr 5y ago
    > and is not easily repurposed. Seems like it's very easily repurposed since it's already activated (by mistake?) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28285567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28285567
miles 5y ago
> Google literally has remote control over all pixel devices and can push arbitrary code via the play services at any time without user approval. Not all Pixel devices; mine doesn't even have Play services installed: https://calyxos.org https://calyxos.org https://grapheneos.org https://grapheneos.org https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28090024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28090024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20148771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20148771