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I think most people want their privacy but they are either unaware or haven't realized the true extent at how much data companies have on them or what they're d

I think most people want their privacy but they are either unaware or haven't realized the true extent at how much data companies have on them or what they're doing on your devices. I believe most people would be outraged if they bought a home and the homeowner's association had the right to go into their house any time of day and review all the photos they took claiming that it's a policy to protect the kids for child porn.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
>I believe most people would be outraged if they bought a home and the homeowner's association had the right to go into their house any time of day and review all the photos they took claiming that it's a policy to protect the kids for child porn. On the other hand it seems people are quite happy for the police to do that, at least into other peoples homes.
- raman162 5y ago
  That is true but usually the police have some form of evidence to justify why they can do that.
knolan 5y ago
People are happy for exactly that to happen when a photographer is anywhere near a playground. Police and private security will trample all over the rights of photographers taking photos in public spaces touting anti-terror laws and privacy. We let Google scan our emails for advertising. We let Amazon put listening devices in our homes. We let Facebook run amok. The general public has almost no concern about privacy other than some limited notion a about the physical sanctity of our front doors.
- raman162 5y ago
  The photographer in a playground example is understandable, no parent wants a stranger having pictures of their children. That is a violation of the family's privacy. I'm guilty of the home smart speaker as I have a few google/nest minis around my apartment. I don't plan on getting anymore because they're just basically used as glorified alarm clocks and speakers. In theory I would ideally replace them but the effort seems like a large inconvenience since the impact would be minimal considering I still use an Android phone.
  - knolan 5y ago
    Is it? If I’m at the playground with my daughters and I snap a photo with my phone or my Canon dSLR with its big fast lens which should worry you more? Which device captures more data and shares it more?
    - raman162 5y ago
      In this case the primary subject is your child so it's more socially acceptable but I can still see it making some other parents uncomfortable.
      - knolan 5y ago
        But who is to know? I could be using a LiDAR equipped phone to scan faces in 3D. I could be live streaming. I could simply taking a family snap. I could be doing anything. Does another person have any right to challenge me? Most parents would feel comfortable infringing the civil liberties of another to protect children from some perceived harm that holding a camera might entail. The point is that we have massive inconsistencies in our respect for privacy and our hysteria over the behaviour of others.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago

>I believe most people would be outraged if they bought a home and the homeowner's association had the right to go into their house any time of day and review all the photos they took claiming that it's a policy to protect the kids for child porn. On the other hand it seems people are quite happy for the police to do that, at least into other peoples homes.

raman162 5y ago
That is true but usually the police have some form of evidence to justify why they can do that.

knolan 5y ago

People are happy for exactly that to happen when a photographer is anywhere near a playground. Police and private security will trample all over the rights of photographers taking photos in public spaces touting anti-terror laws and privacy. We let Google scan our emails for advertising. We let Amazon put listening devices in our homes. We let Facebook run amok. The general public has almost no concern about privacy other than some limited notion a about the physical sanctity of our front doors.

raman162 5y ago
The photographer in a playground example is understandable, no parent wants a stranger having pictures of their children. That is a violation of the family's privacy. I'm guilty of the home smart speaker as I have a few google/nest minis around my apartment. I don't plan on getting anymore because they're just basically used as glorified alarm clocks and speakers. In theory I would ideally replace them but the effort seems like a large inconvenience since the impact would be minimal considering I still use an Android phone.
- knolan 5y ago
  Is it? If I’m at the playground with my daughters and I snap a photo with my phone or my Canon dSLR with its big fast lens which should worry you more? Which device captures more data and shares it more?
  - raman162 5y ago
    In this case the primary subject is your child so it's more socially acceptable but I can still see it making some other parents uncomfortable.
    - knolan 5y ago
      But who is to know? I could be using a LiDAR equipped phone to scan faces in 3D. I could be live streaming. I could simply taking a family snap. I could be doing anything. Does another person have any right to challenge me? Most parents would feel comfortable infringing the civil liberties of another to protect children from some perceived harm that holding a camera might entail. The point is that we have massive inconsistencies in our respect for privacy and our hysteria over the behaviour of others.