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As discussed elsewhere in this submission, if you want real mileage by road then it’s by coach you have to go. I used to be scared of flying (technically still

As discussed elsewhere in this submission, if you want real mileage by road then it’s by coach you have to go. I used to be scared of flying (technically still am but I’ve since learned to manage that fear) so over the years I’ve travelled great distances by road and rail. I’ve used coaches a lot to travel the U.K. and Europe. 12 hours has taken me from London to Amsterdam. I’d wager another 12 hours would get you as far as Eastern European, possibly even Russia. But such a journey would have to be pre-booked coaches. You couldn’t get there on buses.

Symbiote 5y ago
London to Berlin is 26 hours with Eurolines. It says there is a change, but not where the change is.
- dukeyukey 5y ago
  I've taken that bus. I think the change is in Lille, in France near the border with Belgium.
- laumars 5y ago
  The Megabus will take you from London Victoria to Prague in 19hrs https://bustickets.distribusion.com/connections/results?departure_station_code=GBLONGLC&arrival_station_code=CZPRGZOB&departure_date=2021-09-10&marketing_carrier_code=RJET&pax=1&locale=en&currency=GBP&retailer_partner_number=143338 https://bustickets.distribusion.com/connections/results?depa...
  - bogomipz 5y ago
    Interesting that the Prague journey is 7 hours less than Berlin which is closer. Is this just because the number of stops is greater on the Berlin route or something else?
    - laumars 5y ago
      Possibly, though the location of the stops might matter more (ie the Berlin route might be a greater mileage but less direct). The change over likely doesn’t help either.
    - Symbiote 5y ago
      It could be that Berlin is the "end" of a trip around Germany, but Prague is the beginning of a trip to Czechia/Slovakia/Hungary/wherever-it-ends-up. I had a friend who took the bus from London to Poland after each term at university. It was about 20 hours to the first stop in Poland, then another 12 or so going around Poland until it got to his city. (This was decades ago.)
IAmEveryone 5y ago
In Europe, trains are far more comfortable, usually faster, and with better networks in most places. They are more expensive, but if you are in your early 20s (up to 25 or 27) the Interrail ticket is an all-summer (or several weeks, as you chose) pass to travel as much as you want, over most of Europe.
- JackFr 5y ago
  > In Europe, trains are far more comfortable, usually faster, and with better networks in most places. Hah! That’s what I thought until I wanted to go to Liechtenstein. You would think Vaduz as capital would have a rail station, but I had to take a bus.
  - suction 5y ago
    Nobody wants to go there, may be why.
  - gpvos 5y ago
    Well, the station is called Schaan-Vaduz. At least the country has a railway; neither Andorra nor San Marino do.
  - Symbiote 5y ago
    With a population of only about 5,000, and with mountains around, it's not especially surprising. The neighbouring settlement, Schaan, is larger, has all the industry, and has the railway and two stations.
- megablast 5y ago
  And more expensive than flying. Trains are insanely expensive, especially in the Uk and France.
- drstewart 5y ago
  "Better" network is an interesting choice of words if you're listing it as a separate quality from speed. Better in what way? I doubt anywhere in Europe has a train network with denser routing or more stops than the bus system. There are many, many cities and villages that are only accessible by regional buses. I doubt the residents would consider the train networks to be "better".

Symbiote 5y ago

London to Berlin is 26 hours with Eurolines. It says there is a change, but not where the change is.

dukeyukey 5y ago
I've taken that bus. I think the change is in Lille, in France near the border with Belgium.
laumars 5y ago
The Megabus will take you from London Victoria to Prague in 19hrs https://bustickets.distribusion.com/connections/results?departure_station_code=GBLONGLC&arrival_station_code=CZPRGZOB&departure_date=2021-09-10&marketing_carrier_code=RJET&pax=1&locale=en&currency=GBP&retailer_partner_number=143338 https://bustickets.distribusion.com/connections/results?depa...
- bogomipz 5y ago
  Interesting that the Prague journey is 7 hours less than Berlin which is closer. Is this just because the number of stops is greater on the Berlin route or something else?
  - laumars 5y ago
    Possibly, though the location of the stops might matter more (ie the Berlin route might be a greater mileage but less direct). The change over likely doesn’t help either.
  - Symbiote 5y ago
    It could be that Berlin is the "end" of a trip around Germany, but Prague is the beginning of a trip to Czechia/Slovakia/Hungary/wherever-it-ends-up. I had a friend who took the bus from London to Poland after each term at university. It was about 20 hours to the first stop in Poland, then another 12 or so going around Poland until it got to his city. (This was decades ago.)

IAmEveryone 5y ago

In Europe, trains are far more comfortable, usually faster, and with better networks in most places. They are more expensive, but if you are in your early 20s (up to 25 or 27) the Interrail ticket is an all-summer (or several weeks, as you chose) pass to travel as much as you want, over most of Europe.

JackFr 5y ago
> In Europe, trains are far more comfortable, usually faster, and with better networks in most places. Hah! That’s what I thought until I wanted to go to Liechtenstein. You would think Vaduz as capital would have a rail station, but I had to take a bus.
- suction 5y ago
  Nobody wants to go there, may be why.
- gpvos 5y ago
  Well, the station is called Schaan-Vaduz. At least the country has a railway; neither Andorra nor San Marino do.
- Symbiote 5y ago
  With a population of only about 5,000, and with mountains around, it's not especially surprising. The neighbouring settlement, Schaan, is larger, has all the industry, and has the railway and two stations.
megablast 5y ago
And more expensive than flying. Trains are insanely expensive, especially in the Uk and France.
drstewart 5y ago
"Better" network is an interesting choice of words if you're listing it as a separate quality from speed. Better in what way? I doubt anywhere in Europe has a train network with denser routing or more stops than the bus system. There are many, many cities and villages that are only accessible by regional buses. I doubt the residents would consider the train networks to be "better".