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Lets say your a civil engineer working on a bridge. If your employer asked you to remove a support beam to save costs but you knew it had serious impacts on the

Lets say your a civil engineer working on a bridge. If your employer asked you to remove a support beam to save costs but you knew it had serious impacts on the safety would you do it? Knowing that your stamp would be on it and if an issue happened, you could be held responsible? Why is it in other fields of engineering there are actions that are not acceptable, but in software it is virtually non-existent.

bobsmooth 5y ago
Software engineers want the title of "engineer" but none of the responsibilities. Where's the rubber stamp equivalent for software?
- tcmart14 5y ago
  Exactly. And developers are essentially engineers from a problem solving point. I think this is why Grace Hopper pushed so hard to help coin the term "software engineer" with the idea of trying to capture some of the ideas of what engineering should be and incorporate it into the world of software. The fact is there is no rubber stamp. This is why I think we have some of the instances of security breeches where we do.
  - KozmoNau7 5y ago
    There's a certain amount of inflation that has happened to job titles. Previously, my last 4-5 job titles have included the word "manager", yet I have never performed any managerial tasks. My current title includes the word "engineer", yet there is no engineering in my job description. I fix bugs, implement workflows and rules, and onboard customers on a platform. I don't consider that engineering, that's operations.
    - tcmart14 5y ago
      Regardless of the title. There can still be a code of ethics in a trade.
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Aerroon 5y ago
Because software engineering is easy to get into, but hard/impossible to master. You cannot limit it via the requirement of a license. Your country would put itself at a disadvantage in the software space and the projects would move elsewhere. Putting your country at such a disadvantage is a big deal considering that software is likely going to be the most important field in the future due to automation (ie it'll be a part of almost every other field that produces stuff).
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bobsmooth 5y ago

Software engineers want the title of "engineer" but none of the responsibilities. Where's the rubber stamp equivalent for software?

tcmart14 5y ago
Exactly. And developers are essentially engineers from a problem solving point. I think this is why Grace Hopper pushed so hard to help coin the term "software engineer" with the idea of trying to capture some of the ideas of what engineering should be and incorporate it into the world of software. The fact is there is no rubber stamp. This is why I think we have some of the instances of security breeches where we do.
- KozmoNau7 5y ago
  There's a certain amount of inflation that has happened to job titles. Previously, my last 4-5 job titles have included the word "manager", yet I have never performed any managerial tasks. My current title includes the word "engineer", yet there is no engineering in my job description. I fix bugs, implement workflows and rules, and onboard customers on a platform. I don't consider that engineering, that's operations.
  - tcmart14 5y ago
    Regardless of the title. There can still be a code of ethics in a trade.
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Aerroon 5y ago

Because software engineering is easy to get into, but hard/impossible to master. You cannot limit it via the requirement of a license. Your country would put itself at a disadvantage in the software space and the projects would move elsewhere. Putting your country at such a disadvantage is a big deal considering that software is likely going to be the most important field in the future due to automation (ie it'll be a part of almost every other field that produces stuff).

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