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With all the news of CSAM going to be scanned on iPhones, which people are even going to keep such content on iPhones anymore? The news of this has been so prom

by 650 5y ago

With all the news of CSAM going to be scanned on iPhones, which people are even going to keep such content on iPhones anymore? The news of this has been so prominent in the media, people not even in tech have heard about it plenty. If you are a Person of Interest that consumes/distributes such content and are a tad aware of the news, you aren't going to use iPhones/iCloud storage anymore.

CompuHacker 5y ago
Apple will then have a list of all the people who have an iDevice but disabled iCloud in August, 2021.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  That is not evidence, that is inference (of what I am not even sure... prudence perhaps).
- PartiallyTyped 5y ago
  And how does that relate to CSAM? Are we going to start from the premise that everyone is guilty of something?
- istingray 5y ago
  I disabled iCloud the day of the announcement. This feature will be used to attack journalists, whistleblowers, and the vulnerable in our society. I then bought a System76 laptop to move away from my Macboom.
websites2023 5y ago
One would hope, but this severely overestimates the common user’s awareness of such features or their implementation on their devices. Check out this survey from 2019, where a majority of iPhone users of all stripes could not identify the phone they use: https://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-users-survey-2019-1004535/ https://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-users-survey-201... To put it bluntly, this fantasy that any significant portion of people who live east of Tahoe even knows, much less cares, about CSAM scanning is plainly absurd. All the headlines and breathless coverage about the fatal mistake Apple is making has resulted in… Apple’s stock soaring to record highs. Some creeps will get caught. Some will switch to another way of sharing that material. Apple will get shielded from liability for hosting this content in iCloud.

by 650 5y ago

CompuHacker 5y ago

Apple will then have a list of all the people who have an iDevice but disabled iCloud in August, 2021.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
That is not evidence, that is inference (of what I am not even sure... prudence perhaps).
PartiallyTyped 5y ago
And how does that relate to CSAM? Are we going to start from the premise that everyone is guilty of something?
istingray 5y ago
I disabled iCloud the day of the announcement. This feature will be used to attack journalists, whistleblowers, and the vulnerable in our society. I then bought a System76 laptop to move away from my Macboom.

websites2023 5y ago

One would hope, but this severely overestimates the common user’s awareness of such features or their implementation on their devices. Check out this survey from 2019, where a majority of iPhone users of all stripes could not identify the phone they use: https://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-users-survey-2019-1004535/ https://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-users-survey-201... To put it bluntly, this fantasy that any significant portion of people who live east of Tahoe even knows, much less cares, about CSAM scanning is plainly absurd. All the headlines and breathless coverage about the fatal mistake Apple is making has resulted in… Apple’s stock soaring to record highs. Some creeps will get caught. Some will switch to another way of sharing that material. Apple will get shielded from liability for hosting this content in iCloud.