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I'm pro-vaccination, but there's no sugar coating the fact that %60 of hospitalizations are of previously vaccinated people. I don't know much about mRNA vacci
by chaostheory 5y ago
I'm pro-vaccination, but there's no sugar coating the fact that %60 of hospitalizations are of previously vaccinated people.
I don't know much about mRNA vaccines, but do mRNA vaccines induce sterilizing immunity?
- ssss11 5y agoNot sure what “sterilising immunity” is but the vaccines appear to reduce likelihood you will get Covid (not completely make you immune). If you then get it you are much less likely to end up in ICU or die, you may go to hospital though.
- est31 5y agoIt's a statistical effect called Simpson's Paradox. The 60% is nothing to be worried about. https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-... https://twitter.com/jsm2334/status/1427465566210695178 https://twitter.com/jsm2334/status/1427465566210695178
- charbonneau 5y agoThe Simpson's Paradox seems to refer to something else: https://twitter.com/_MiguelHernan/status/1428014414666420230 https://twitter.com/_MiguelHernan/status/1428014414666420230
- est31 5y agoIf you go by what Simpson wrote, then maybe it is a different paradox. If you go by what most people are being taught the Simpson's paradox is, then no. Ultimately it's besides the point. The conflict is resolved by better statistics.
- vitaflo 5y agoIf 100% of people were immunized then 100% of hospitalizations would be vaccinated people. This doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective.
- chaostheory 5y agoI’m not saying all vaccines are ineffective. I’m wondering if mRNA vaccines are effective long term since they don’t produce sterilizing immunity.