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All good points. Yeah, we should stop using the term I think given it's lost a lot of its meaning. But a fair bit of the discussion of this topic has been badly
by slownews45 5y ago
All good points. Yeah, we should stop using the term I think given it's lost a lot of its meaning. But a fair bit of the discussion of this topic has been badly misinformed.
- zepto 5y agoI agree, but that is a feature of this particular problem. For example, I see a lot of people who are simply wrong about how the hash matching works. One way to be wrong is to think it’s a cryptographic hash. Another way to be wrong is to think it’s just a perceptual hash match. The problem is that these are both not crazy. The actual solution is far more complex and non-obvious than most people would suspect. I think this is a genuine problem with the system. It is hard for almost anyone to imagine how it could be trustworthy.
- slownews45 5y agoApple have been pretty clear that a human will review things. That is (I hope) a feature of any system that leads to child porn charges. If not it should be - AI gets things wrong and can be tricked (as can humans but in different ways usually). But agreed, the technical bits may not be obvious (though apple released I thought a pretty darn complete paper on how it all works).
- zepto 5y agoSure - but who wants a human reviewing their private photos? I don’t. Unless you understand the technical bits you have know way of knowing how rarely this is likely to happen in practice.
- slownews45 5y agoNot me, but if they only review after a flag, that's best you can do I think? facebook works this way too. Users flag photos and someone looks and deals with them.
- zepto 5y ago‘No worse than facebook’ is probably the most damning thing you can say about a tech company. The best you can do would be to not review people’s private photos at all.