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I had not come across FAAMG but I like it, even if I have trouble saying it. ("MAGAF"? Hmmm. "GAAMF"?) Netflix has never been an aspirational overlord type com

I had not come across FAAMG but I like it, even if I have trouble saying it. ("MAGAF"? Hmmm. "GAAMF"?) Netflix has never been an aspirational overlord type company like the others. Even though Microsoft is no longer at its peak, its dual presence via OS and cloud keep it in sustainable wannabe overlord position.

croes 5y ago
I thought it's G-MAFIA.
- kubanczyk 5y ago
  Ah, Intel? Neat.
  - natchy 5y ago
    Facebook/Instagram?
jstx1 5y ago
Give Microsoft some credit - they're the second largest company in the world with over $2 trillion market cap. Sure we're not in the 90s anymore and their image, position in the markets and in the zeitgest is a bit different but "not at its peak" is a bit harsh. As far as acronyms, I like FAAAM (replace Google with Alphabet).
- Nevermark 5y ago
  Microsoft is doing wonderful as a business. But their #1 stranglehold position in tech went bye bye when they dropped the ball in the OS area by whiffing fantastically several times as mobile rose to dominance. In cloud they are significant, just not dominant either. But as a cash cow they are still a king.
  - onion2k 5y ago
    You assume that their current market position is because they dropped the ball rather than a deliberate choice to step back from being the prominent leader. They're making more money than ever, they've essentially fixed their reputation from the Ballmer years, they can attract top talent, and they can work on projects without massive public strutiny and commentary now. I think it was Microsoft are exactly where they want to be.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      > You assume that their current market position is because they dropped the ball rather than a deliberate choice to step back from being the prominent leader. A business willingly choosing to make less money and get out competed by competitors? Why did they then attempt to create a windows phone then pull it after failure?
      - onion2k 5y ago
        I didn't say they aren't leading. I said they stepped back from being the prominent leader. Microsoft is making more money now than ever. https://www.geekwire.com/2021/microsoft-beats-earnings-estimates-41-7b-revenue-19-15-5b-profit-44/amp/ https://www.geekwire.com/2021/microsoft-beats-earnings-estim...
        tekknik 5y ago
        What does them having “more money than ever” have to do with it? Your claim was that the step back from mobile was planned and purposeful no? Why would any company choose to step back from anything?
        Nevermark 5y ago
        Microsoft wrote down billions of dollars on many attempts at being king of mobile. These were colossal failures. The fact that they were such a cash generating machine doesn’t imply that they didn’t lose out on being a much bigger business. They didn’t step back from mobile prominence, they stepped back from repeated mobile failures, licked their wounds, and refocused on other areas because they had lost their chance. And they knew it. Of course, every day is a new opportunity. Microsoft seems to be far better managed now.
franky47 5y ago
We call them GAFAM in France.
asadlionpk 5y ago
FAGMAN
- pcthrowaway 5y ago
  NAGFAM
dTal 5y ago
Only wannabe? Aside from the niche and premium Apple products, you can't walk into a brick and mortar store and walk out with a PC that doesn't run Microsoft Windows. You also can't run almost any industrial software without Windows. Good luck with any slightly unusual hardware either. Gaming is still mainly Windows based. They still have a tight stranglehold on desktop computing.
- mattl 5y ago
  Chromebooks?
- blueblisters 5y ago
  Most open-source projects exist on Github. VSCode is the best and the most-used IDE. A good amount of code in the future will likely be written using Copilot. Microsoft is a software development productivity behemoth.
  - booleandilemma 5y ago
    VSCode is not an IDE, it’s a text editor.
    - blueblisters 5y ago
      What IDE features are missing from VSCode?
      - Taurenking 5y ago
        Most of them, hence why you install plugins to make the editor into an IDE. A candidate for best IDE would be anything produced by JetBrains https://www.jetbrains.com/ https://www.jetbrains.com/
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r00fus 5y ago
Clearly it should be GAFAM (pronounced like Batman's eponymous metro).

croes 5y ago

I thought it's G-MAFIA.

kubanczyk 5y ago
Ah, Intel? Neat.
- natchy 5y ago
  Facebook/Instagram?

jstx1 5y ago

Give Microsoft some credit - they're the second largest company in the world with over $2 trillion market cap. Sure we're not in the 90s anymore and their image, position in the markets and in the zeitgest is a bit different but "not at its peak" is a bit harsh. As far as acronyms, I like FAAAM (replace Google with Alphabet).

Nevermark 5y ago
Microsoft is doing wonderful as a business. But their #1 stranglehold position in tech went bye bye when they dropped the ball in the OS area by whiffing fantastically several times as mobile rose to dominance. In cloud they are significant, just not dominant either. But as a cash cow they are still a king.
- onion2k 5y ago
  You assume that their current market position is because they dropped the ball rather than a deliberate choice to step back from being the prominent leader. They're making more money than ever, they've essentially fixed their reputation from the Ballmer years, they can attract top talent, and they can work on projects without massive public strutiny and commentary now. I think it was Microsoft are exactly where they want to be.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    > You assume that their current market position is because they dropped the ball rather than a deliberate choice to step back from being the prominent leader. A business willingly choosing to make less money and get out competed by competitors? Why did they then attempt to create a windows phone then pull it after failure?
    - onion2k 5y ago
      I didn't say they aren't leading. I said they stepped back from being the prominent leader. Microsoft is making more money now than ever. https://www.geekwire.com/2021/microsoft-beats-earnings-estimates-41-7b-revenue-19-15-5b-profit-44/amp/ https://www.geekwire.com/2021/microsoft-beats-earnings-estim...
      - tekknik 5y ago
        What does them having “more money than ever” have to do with it? Your claim was that the step back from mobile was planned and purposeful no? Why would any company choose to step back from anything?
      - Nevermark 5y ago
        Microsoft wrote down billions of dollars on many attempts at being king of mobile. These were colossal failures. The fact that they were such a cash generating machine doesn’t imply that they didn’t lose out on being a much bigger business. They didn’t step back from mobile prominence, they stepped back from repeated mobile failures, licked their wounds, and refocused on other areas because they had lost their chance. And they knew it. Of course, every day is a new opportunity. Microsoft seems to be far better managed now.

franky47 5y ago

We call them GAFAM in France.

asadlionpk 5y ago

FAGMAN

pcthrowaway 5y ago
NAGFAM

dTal 5y ago

Only wannabe? Aside from the niche and premium Apple products, you can't walk into a brick and mortar store and walk out with a PC that doesn't run Microsoft Windows. You also can't run almost any industrial software without Windows. Good luck with any slightly unusual hardware either. Gaming is still mainly Windows based. They still have a tight stranglehold on desktop computing.

mattl 5y ago
Chromebooks?
blueblisters 5y ago
Most open-source projects exist on Github. VSCode is the best and the most-used IDE. A good amount of code in the future will likely be written using Copilot. Microsoft is a software development productivity behemoth.
- booleandilemma 5y ago
  VSCode is not an IDE, it’s a text editor.
  - blueblisters 5y ago
    What IDE features are missing from VSCode?
    - Taurenking 5y ago
      Most of them, hence why you install plugins to make the editor into an IDE. A candidate for best IDE would be anything produced by JetBrains https://www.jetbrains.com/ https://www.jetbrains.com/

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r00fus 5y ago

Clearly it should be GAFAM (pronounced like Batman's eponymous metro).