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> How can we know that without long-term studies? It's unbelievably well tested. Pfizer and Moderna have minimal side effects compared even yo the most mild of

> How can we know that without long-term studies? It's unbelievably well tested. Pfizer and Moderna have minimal side effects compared even yo the most mild of COVID cases. You're saying that you're ok with extreme covid symptoms (permeant reduced lung capacity, significant loss of taste and smell, permeant brain fog) but not ok with a vaccine that's proven safe in hundreds of millions of people? That's just bad risk assessment. And they're still incredibly effective against new strains. They're preventing hospitalization, death, and extreme, permeant symptoms. That is their goal. They're working. > but if I get the vaccine, that adds to the demand, Wrong. The supply is already created. It's already been paid for by the federal government. Your individual demand is irrelevant. > I won't get treatment because I did not get the vaccine. So talking about how I don't care about people is entirely wrong as well. I care about people, so I won't take the hospital bed. If you're unvaccinated, then you are still hurting others by being a vector for (1) incubating the virus and thus spreading it and (2) being a petri dish for deadly mutation to evolve. And if your resolve on your deathbed changes, as so many doctors and nurses have seen, then you'll take that hospital bed anyways. And if you did actually already have COVID (and not a cold or any number of other diseases that are mild and share some COVID symptoms), then getting better antibodies would be a good thing. No logic as to why you would not want to increase your immune systems' effectiveness.

ghoward 5y ago
> It's unbelievably well tested. Not long term. Sorry, but you simply are not going to convince me on this one. It's heavily tested, but not well tested. There is a difference. > Wrong. The supply is already created. It's already been paid for by the federal government. Your individual demand is irrelevant. If it's already been paid for, then either a lot are going to waste, because they expire, or they are going somewhere else, which means my individual demand, while tiny, is not irrelevant. > If you're unvaccinated, then you are still hurting others by being a vector for (1) incubating the virus and thus spreading it and (2) being a petri dish for deadly mutation to evolve. The vaccinated are vectors and petri dishes too. A virus is going to virus. > And if you did actually already have COVID (and not a cold or any number of other diseases that are mild and share some COVID symptoms), then getting better antibodies would be a good thing. No logic as to why you would not want to increase your immune systems' effectiveness. Because the vaccines may actually not increase the effectiveness of my immune system and may give me extra health problems. There is a logic, and you appear to not have read my blog post about it.
- malcolmgreaves 5y ago
  > The vaccinated are vectors and petri dishes too. A virus is going to virus. Ok........you don't understand how antibodies & viral replication work. Please learn from people who are more knowledgeable than you and stop playing around. People are dying. People are being hurt. It's not an academic game.

ghoward 5y ago

> It's unbelievably well tested. Not long term. Sorry, but you simply are not going to convince me on this one. It's heavily tested, but not well tested. There is a difference. > Wrong. The supply is already created. It's already been paid for by the federal government. Your individual demand is irrelevant. If it's already been paid for, then either a lot are going to waste, because they expire, or they are going somewhere else, which means my individual demand, while tiny, is not irrelevant. > If you're unvaccinated, then you are still hurting others by being a vector for (1) incubating the virus and thus spreading it and (2) being a petri dish for deadly mutation to evolve. The vaccinated are vectors and petri dishes too. A virus is going to virus. > And if you did actually already have COVID (and not a cold or any number of other diseases that are mild and share some COVID symptoms), then getting better antibodies would be a good thing. No logic as to why you would not want to increase your immune systems' effectiveness. Because the vaccines may actually not increase the effectiveness of my immune system and may give me extra health problems. There is a logic, and you appear to not have read my blog post about it.

malcolmgreaves 5y ago
> The vaccinated are vectors and petri dishes too. A virus is going to virus. Ok........you don't understand how antibodies & viral replication work. Please learn from people who are more knowledgeable than you and stop playing around. People are dying. People are being hurt. It's not an academic game.