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Meh I'd say having middle class parents is probably better. Anybody who's in the US middle class can have a low stress life. Most don't because they want thin

by chubot 5y ago

Meh I'd say having middle class parents is probably better. Anybody who's in the US middle class can have a low stress life. Most don't because they want things. (Mostly they want to compete with people they view as their peers.)

bradlys 5y ago
I know plenty of people in the lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, and the rich. You’re deeply out of touch with what it’s like to be in the middle class and the rich if you think it’s lower stress to be in the middle class. The rich self-impose their stress and could give it up if they wanted to. (And I watch those who do and they take it very easy) The middle class don’t impose their stress, it’s an externality they cannot control.
- javert 5y ago
  What specifically makes you say that middle class people have highly stressful lives? I don't have that association, personally, but maybe I'm out of touch.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    I'd figure this last year would make it kinda obvious but ok. Maybe: Living paycheck to paycheck - risk of eviction - foreclosure moratorium - no job due to COVID? That's basically not something that happens to people who are rich because they don't work in restaurants, retail, tourism, etc. unless they're the ones running it... which means they have significant capital and don't really risk being thrown out of their home or having to sell their home, etc. There's lots more but I mean - surely that's sufficient to get the idea across?
    - javert 5y ago
      Hey, no need to have an attitude. The source of the discrepancy turns out to be that we define "middle class" differently, which was one of my leading suspicions. Not sure what country your experiences are based on, but I consider American middle class to usually be salaried people who are homeowners (maybe with mortgage, fair enough), so several of the points you raised don't apply. That said, of course, it's a pretty fuzzy category. Please try to behave nicely on HN. There is no need to insult others here (for instance, by saying that they don't get something that is "obvious").
- CheezeIt 5y ago
  Working class and middle class kids don’t go around being stressed out by their parents’ finances, you can tell by living with them. If it were really about stress you’d see a difference in kids who have a parent working in the public sector.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    Might be more of ignorance than anything else. Certainly wasn't the case when I was growing up. I was acutely aware of my parents financial situations and how they were making poor choices coupled with lack of ability to increase income.
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ZoomZoomZoom 5y ago
> Anybody who's in the US middle class In other words, "rich" (from the global perspective).

by chubot 5y ago

bradlys 5y ago

I know plenty of people in the lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, and the rich. You’re deeply out of touch with what it’s like to be in the middle class and the rich if you think it’s lower stress to be in the middle class. The rich self-impose their stress and could give it up if they wanted to. (And I watch those who do and they take it very easy) The middle class don’t impose their stress, it’s an externality they cannot control.

javert 5y ago
What specifically makes you say that middle class people have highly stressful lives? I don't have that association, personally, but maybe I'm out of touch.
- bradlys 5y ago
  I'd figure this last year would make it kinda obvious but ok. Maybe: Living paycheck to paycheck - risk of eviction - foreclosure moratorium - no job due to COVID? That's basically not something that happens to people who are rich because they don't work in restaurants, retail, tourism, etc. unless they're the ones running it... which means they have significant capital and don't really risk being thrown out of their home or having to sell their home, etc. There's lots more but I mean - surely that's sufficient to get the idea across?
  - javert 5y ago
    Hey, no need to have an attitude. The source of the discrepancy turns out to be that we define "middle class" differently, which was one of my leading suspicions. Not sure what country your experiences are based on, but I consider American middle class to usually be salaried people who are homeowners (maybe with mortgage, fair enough), so several of the points you raised don't apply. That said, of course, it's a pretty fuzzy category. Please try to behave nicely on HN. There is no need to insult others here (for instance, by saying that they don't get something that is "obvious").
CheezeIt 5y ago
Working class and middle class kids don’t go around being stressed out by their parents’ finances, you can tell by living with them. If it were really about stress you’d see a difference in kids who have a parent working in the public sector.
- bradlys 5y ago
  Might be more of ignorance than anything else. Certainly wasn't the case when I was growing up. I was acutely aware of my parents financial situations and how they were making poor choices coupled with lack of ability to increase income.
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ZoomZoomZoom 5y ago

> Anybody who's in the US middle class In other words, "rich" (from the global perspective).