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JRuby is fast for a Ruby implementation, but it's still far, far slower than Scala or Java itself. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all

JRuby is fast for a Ruby implementation, but it's still far, far slower than Scala or Java itself. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=jruby&lang2=scala http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all...

bad_user 15y ago
I do get that a dynamic language like Ruby will always be slower than a language like Java, which has primitives and where many things, including static method calls, are solved at compile time. But citing the Alioth.Debian benchmarks? Really? Dude, take a look at the source-code of those benchmarks sometimes -- they are completely useless ;)
- netghost 15y ago
  If you want a fast dynamic language, take a look at Lua. It's surprisingly fast, especially LuaJIT, and pretty straight forward (almost boring really). The main downside is that there isn't the breadth of community around it.
  - cppsnob 15y ago
    Lua's threading is just as broken as Python or Ruby. Maybe even more so.
- cageface 15y ago
  They show the right order-of-magnitude differences. Taking them more seriously than that is a mistake.
  - igouy 15y ago
    That JRuby :: Scala URL shows an interquartile range from 6x to 31x so which order-of-magnitude were you going to pick? ;-)
- etherael 15y ago
  it's still slower than ruby 1.9 is it not? I was under the impression the current perf hierarchy was 1.9.2p290 w / gc cleanup patch (ree inspired) > jruby > 1.8.7 (ree) > all the other rubies?
- igouy 15y ago
  Dude, "completely useless" is just "completely useless" name calling. Say what you think is wrong with the source-code of particular programs.
- code_duck 15y ago
  They're as useful as the code is well written for each language. You think the Ruby code could be faster, and thus the comparison is skewed? Go ahead and help everyone understand by improving it.
kennystone 15y ago
A lot of the pain a site like Twitter will have comes from GC (they wrote their own Ruby GC), and JRuby has a much better garbage collector over MRI and probably better than Twitter's.
- vsync 15y ago
  It seems like something like Twitter would benefit lots from a good generational GC. Any more info on the one they wrote and how it differs from the built-in one? I'd love to learn more.

bad_user 15y ago

I do get that a dynamic language like Ruby will always be slower than a language like Java, which has primitives and where many things, including static method calls, are solved at compile time. But citing the Alioth.Debian benchmarks? Really? Dude, take a look at the source-code of those benchmarks sometimes -- they are completely useless ;)

netghost 15y ago
If you want a fast dynamic language, take a look at Lua. It's surprisingly fast, especially LuaJIT, and pretty straight forward (almost boring really). The main downside is that there isn't the breadth of community around it.
- cppsnob 15y ago
  Lua's threading is just as broken as Python or Ruby. Maybe even more so.
cageface 15y ago
They show the right order-of-magnitude differences. Taking them more seriously than that is a mistake.
- igouy 15y ago
  That JRuby :: Scala URL shows an interquartile range from 6x to 31x so which order-of-magnitude were you going to pick? ;-)
etherael 15y ago
it's still slower than ruby 1.9 is it not? I was under the impression the current perf hierarchy was 1.9.2p290 w / gc cleanup patch (ree inspired) > jruby > 1.8.7 (ree) > all the other rubies?
igouy 15y ago
Dude, "completely useless" is just "completely useless" name calling. Say what you think is wrong with the source-code of particular programs.
code_duck 15y ago
They're as useful as the code is well written for each language. You think the Ruby code could be faster, and thus the comparison is skewed? Go ahead and help everyone understand by improving it.

kennystone 15y ago

A lot of the pain a site like Twitter will have comes from GC (they wrote their own Ruby GC), and JRuby has a much better garbage collector over MRI and probably better than Twitter's.

vsync 15y ago
It seems like something like Twitter would benefit lots from a good generational GC. Any more info on the one they wrote and how it differs from the built-in one? I'd love to learn more.