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Yeah there is a word for treating eachother with friendship - "friends". Being friendly. This is already included in social skills. The company saying they wan

Yeah there is a word for treating eachother with friendship - "friends". Being friendly. This is already included in social skills. The company saying they want to be family is super annoying to me. It's a JOB, not a personal relationship you choose yourself. Saying it's a family implies you should feel loyalty to the company, when in fact, it's a business relationship. They are trying to blur the lines by saying family and its complete bullshit. I wouldn't even have a job if they didn't give me money for it, but I would have a family. See the crystal clear difference?

mattowen_uk 5y ago
> They are trying to blur the lines by saying family and its complete bullshit. Agreed. It's a psychological tactic to make their workers work harder. If your real family asked you to do a task that needed you to go out of your way to perform, you'd do it, because it's your family. Companies that try to push the 'we're like a family' angle are aiming to leverage you the same way. No company does something for nothing. If your employer offers you something unexpected, always ask yourself, what's in it for them ?
- borski 5y ago
  Your last statement is a bit unfair, as it implies that their goals are necessarily non-altruistic. Often, what’s in it for them is increased employee happiness which leads to, yes, increased employee retention. That’s a win-win, and not evil.
  - pessimizer 5y ago
    You're the one bringing up "evil." The people you're replying to are simply saying that the company is selfish and does not love you.
    - borski 5y ago
      Perhaps evil was a bad term, but the implication was there.
unreal37 5y ago
OK, so what if you don't want to be friends with your boss / co-workers. But have excellent work performance. Should this hold you back from promotion?
- borski 5y ago
  If you are not friendly in the office and troublesome to work with / collaborate with, yes. If you simply aren’t friends outside the office, no.
Closi 5y ago
> I wouldn't even have a job if they didn't give me money for it, but I would have a family. See the crystal clear difference? Yes, crystal clear, but this is the difference between taking it literally and its intended use as a metaphor. Just as "his words cut deep as a knife" doesn't mean that the words were literally as damaging as being stabbed, and "They are walking a real tightrope in that meeting" doesn't mean someone could literally fall and die, "we are like a family" doesn't mean you are making a life-long commitment to the organisation which would continue without pay. And sure, you could say 'friends' instead, but then maybe someone else taking your statement too literally would say "well I don't want to be friends with everyone, I just work 9-5 and don't really like the lady in the accounts department because she is rude". "Well", you might say, "tough - get along with them and treat them with respect. You might not like them, but you have to learn to tolerate each other and still be kind as you can't pick who you work with" (almost like a family?).
- butwhywhyoh 5y ago
  You're leaning really, really hard into your claim that everyone is just overreacting to the simile/metaphor aspect of it. And going out of your way to provide example after belabored example of how metaphors shouldn't be taken literally. None of what you described requires being in a family to accomplish. When I run into people at work that rub me the wrong way, I put on a professional face and treat them with respect as much as the situation warrants to get our job done. You could almost describe it as a ... relationship between co-workers.

mattowen_uk 5y ago

> They are trying to blur the lines by saying family and its complete bullshit. Agreed. It's a psychological tactic to make their workers work harder. If your real family asked you to do a task that needed you to go out of your way to perform, you'd do it, because it's your family. Companies that try to push the 'we're like a family' angle are aiming to leverage you the same way. No company does something for nothing. If your employer offers you something unexpected, always ask yourself, what's in it for them ?

borski 5y ago
Your last statement is a bit unfair, as it implies that their goals are necessarily non-altruistic. Often, what’s in it for them is increased employee happiness which leads to, yes, increased employee retention. That’s a win-win, and not evil.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  You're the one bringing up "evil." The people you're replying to are simply saying that the company is selfish and does not love you.
  - borski 5y ago
    Perhaps evil was a bad term, but the implication was there.

unreal37 5y ago

OK, so what if you don't want to be friends with your boss / co-workers. But have excellent work performance. Should this hold you back from promotion?

borski 5y ago
If you are not friendly in the office and troublesome to work with / collaborate with, yes. If you simply aren’t friends outside the office, no.

Closi 5y ago

> I wouldn't even have a job if they didn't give me money for it, but I would have a family. See the crystal clear difference? Yes, crystal clear, but this is the difference between taking it literally and its intended use as a metaphor. Just as "his words cut deep as a knife" doesn't mean that the words were literally as damaging as being stabbed, and "They are walking a real tightrope in that meeting" doesn't mean someone could literally fall and die, "we are like a family" doesn't mean you are making a life-long commitment to the organisation which would continue without pay. And sure, you could say 'friends' instead, but then maybe someone else taking your statement too literally would say "well I don't want to be friends with everyone, I just work 9-5 and don't really like the lady in the accounts department because she is rude". "Well", you might say, "tough - get along with them and treat them with respect. You might not like them, but you have to learn to tolerate each other and still be kind as you can't pick who you work with" (almost like a family?).

butwhywhyoh 5y ago
You're leaning really, really hard into your claim that everyone is just overreacting to the simile/metaphor aspect of it. And going out of your way to provide example after belabored example of how metaphors shouldn't be taken literally. None of what you described requires being in a family to accomplish. When I run into people at work that rub me the wrong way, I put on a professional face and treat them with respect as much as the situation warrants to get our job done. You could almost describe it as a ... relationship between co-workers.