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>Doesn’t that go against the less random nature of matchmaking in real life? No. Holy cow. Those are my biases. I can choose to act on them or not. I get pigeo
by GS210821 5y ago
>Doesn’t that go against the less random nature of matchmaking in real life?
No. Holy cow. Those are my biases. I can choose to act on them or not. I get pigeonholed after a few weeks on every dating platform, it’s brutal and very depressing. In the wild I can choose to go to a different grocery store, go to a different park, hang out in a different cafe, go play mini golf… whatever.
I am very open minded, I go out of my way to talk to a lot of different people from every walk of life, despite having a healthy group of loving friends and not being particularly extroverted, but I can only talk to those who are willing. I can try to talk to those who catch my fancy, and believe me I do, but our “stranger danger”, dopamine addled, earbuds-in, narcissistic and anxiety ridden culture makes this a fairly poor strategy. Perhaps in another life this would have been how you meet people, but generally speaking as a male in the modern heterosexual dating culture of millennials and gen z, you aren’t going to have much luck meeting people “in the wild” because talking to people unprovoked —-if you even can, everyone is plugged in all the time— is either creepy, weird or annoying- or at least that’s been my experience living throughout Northern California and the Bay Area. And covid has made this phenomenon significantly worse.
And I know what this sounds like, so I’ll just come out and say it: I’m conventionally good looking, tall, fit, well dressed and a good conversationalist, not a creep. In settings where it’s appropriate, like, say, a music festival or a party, I’m good at meeting people, so I really don’t think it’s me. But on apps it’s just the same people.
With apps there’s basically two options, I give a lot of people a chance and my MMR tanks and I only see a certain kind of person, or I’m selective for people I think would be a good fit and I see a different higher MMR group, which eventually devolves into the first group as it seems MMR decays over time.
I’m currently single again and almost 30 and I recognize a lot of the women I get in my feeds from dating at other points in my life. I use many apps, have no filters and cast my net quite wide. If I didn’t understand that this is essentially to be expected from social media for profit, I’d be befuddled and confused, but it’s really just upsetting. Romantic love is a huge piece of the human experience being gate kept by mega corps.
OkCupid getting bought by Match Group was horrible; now it’s search functionality is gutted and it’s got the same matchmaking bullshit all the others do, and matches me with the same groups of people and inactive accounts just like the rest.
Anyway, what you wrote triggered me, and I felt quite compelled to scream into the void about it. Modern dating apps feel like I have overly aggressive parents trying to put me in an arranged marriage. Its downright suffocating and makes this whole messed-up-planet, extremely socially divided, and ethically bankrupt life feel that much more dystopian.
Rant over.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago>No. Holy cow. Those are my biases. I can choose to act on them or not. I know that you want to believe this. I know that I want to believe this. I'm not sure it's a good idea.
- jlokier 5y ago"OkCupid getting bought by Match Group was horrible" OkCupid was seriously excellent at its job, and a unique jewel in the landscape. There was nothing like it before, and as far as I know there has been nothing like it since its destruction under match.com. I think what OkCupid did was quite profound, even if they stumbled across the social mechanisms by accident at first. It's ability to find uncannily good matches for friendship and conversation unexpectedly via free-form attitude common ground discovery, driven by people who joined curious about romance or sex, touches on something so much more important than mere romance and dating. It was like an electronic assist for what people instinctively do in the offline world in a healthy community. Partnering instincts driving the interest, but emergent behaviour if you were up for it was friendship networks with light flirting and sometimes decent conversation. Not at all like the gate-keeping, manipulation and unhappy stress seen on other sites. With people so affected by and dependent on social sites these days, and the apparent ever-increasing polarisation, we might need to reinvent aspects of OkCupid again.
- bradlys 5y agoWe must've been on a different website. Outside of the forums (which were mostly full of trolls), I don't see how you could've been making friends on that website in the way you convey. I certainly wasn't and neither were any of the people I knew who used it either. Hell - even getting a date on it was quite difficult (I never got one but I know my female counterparts were getting 50+ messages/day and never complained for a lack of suitors). The stats they released backed that up too. After all it wasn't just an effortless swipe to see if you were physically compatible with one another before moving forward... You had to craft a message and pray whatever attempt you used worked. (And then do that a lot) I never saw friendly messages going between same-sex people or anything of that sort.