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"That will never work" is probably what has been said the most about Musk projects.

cinntaile 5y ago
We're still waiting for Automatic Self Drive, not long ago he acknowledged it's harder than he thought it would be. Musk is a good marketeer though, he knows how to make headlines. A Tesla Bot will also likely be harder than he expected.
alpaca128 5y ago
It's also correct a lot of the time. Hyperloop didn't work out and the remaining related projects are looking more and more like scams. In the last few years no noteworthy progress has been made and even the most basic questions haven't ever been answered. The Boring Company, which ripped off the original The Boring Company, has one finished project which didn't get close to the original vision and cost enough that further projects were put on hold. Neuralink is cool but Musk made some really wild claims in their name without much to back them up. SpaceX and Tesla do some amazing stuff and hopefully they keep being successful. But that doesn't say anything about the rest.
- bbarnett 5y ago
  Boring corp, modified, will be immensely valuable on Mars, for digging habitats / etc.
- elurg 5y ago
  Many of those side bets that "don't work yet" are much newer than Tesla and SpaceX and have had much less effort put into them. Claims that "they will never work" are predicting the future based mostly on personal biases. For example Hyperloop is just a concept that other people are trying to implement with very limited resources.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    "Claims that "they will never work" are predicting the future based mostly on personal biases." No, there are transport and contruction proffeshionals explaining that economics of the Hyperloop cannot work, it requires more effort to build and has 100x less capacity and worse safety than any bullet train. The Boring Company doesn't even make sence, how are they making tonnels cheaper? Have they achieved anything at all? There is no 'core of innovation' behind it
  - alpaca128 5y ago
    > For example Hyperloop is just a concept that other people are trying to implement with very limited resources. Virgin Hyperloop raised $160 million from investors and all they can show after 7 years is a successful trip through the massively downscaled 500m test track, at a fraction of the advertised speed. So far nobody could show that it can compete with standard high-speed trains, how those by far largest vaccum chambers are supposed to be maintained and protected, or how the metal tube's massive temperature-dependent expansions are going to be handled. Those are huge engineering challenges and all they seemed to focus on so far are some public partnerships and interior designs. Musk was wise to get off that train.
sidibe 5y ago
This is a project they haven't done anything about yet, from the presentation it looks like they just came up with the idea that they would work on this within a week before. Musk's fans give him too much credit for announcing future work.

We're still waiting for Automatic Self Drive, not long ago he acknowledged it's harder than he thought it would be. Musk is a good marketeer though, he knows how to make headlines. A Tesla Bot will also likely be harder than he expected.

alpaca128 5y ago

It's also correct a lot of the time. Hyperloop didn't work out and the remaining related projects are looking more and more like scams. In the last few years no noteworthy progress has been made and even the most basic questions haven't ever been answered. The Boring Company, which ripped off the original The Boring Company, has one finished project which didn't get close to the original vision and cost enough that further projects were put on hold. Neuralink is cool but Musk made some really wild claims in their name without much to back them up. SpaceX and Tesla do some amazing stuff and hopefully they keep being successful. But that doesn't say anything about the rest.

bbarnett 5y ago
Boring corp, modified, will be immensely valuable on Mars, for digging habitats / etc.
elurg 5y ago
Many of those side bets that "don't work yet" are much newer than Tesla and SpaceX and have had much less effort put into them. Claims that "they will never work" are predicting the future based mostly on personal biases. For example Hyperloop is just a concept that other people are trying to implement with very limited resources.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "Claims that "they will never work" are predicting the future based mostly on personal biases." No, there are transport and contruction proffeshionals explaining that economics of the Hyperloop cannot work, it requires more effort to build and has 100x less capacity and worse safety than any bullet train. The Boring Company doesn't even make sence, how are they making tonnels cheaper? Have they achieved anything at all? There is no 'core of innovation' behind it
- alpaca128 5y ago
  > For example Hyperloop is just a concept that other people are trying to implement with very limited resources. Virgin Hyperloop raised $160 million from investors and all they can show after 7 years is a successful trip through the massively downscaled 500m test track, at a fraction of the advertised speed. So far nobody could show that it can compete with standard high-speed trains, how those by far largest vaccum chambers are supposed to be maintained and protected, or how the metal tube's massive temperature-dependent expansions are going to be handled. Those are huge engineering challenges and all they seemed to focus on so far are some public partnerships and interior designs. Musk was wise to get off that train.

sidibe 5y ago

This is a project they haven't done anything about yet, from the presentation it looks like they just came up with the idea that they would work on this within a week before. Musk's fans give him too much credit for announcing future work.