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I'm not trolling. The trouble is that the systems that ban people from cloud platforms are largely automated. And if you trip a wired you have no recourse to ta

I'm not trolling. The trouble is that the systems that ban people from cloud platforms are largely automated. And if you trip a wired you have no recourse to talk with an human being, so the actual written lines in the ToS aren't very relevant.

grepfru_it 5y ago
At a certain size, your org should be a resale partner with whatever cloud service it is, so the end customers are getting their own accounts. This varies by size and $$$ spent. Credit cards should never be linked across accounts thanks to PCI-DSS complince Same IP ban is also not likely unless you are actually doing nefarious things across multiple accounts. I am also making the assumption you are connecting from some business account and not a residential ISP, though that is changing thanks to covid. FWIW, I have worked at many companies where offices of 300-500 proxy outbound traffic to a single IP, that’s why I don’t believe this is a concern. The ultimate problem is when you have several logical partition but no billing partition. Also the large marketing firm I worked at had zero phone support with Facebook and Google, yet we did this all day (with a single IP address). This all boils down to one common thread: you should be taking advice from a lawyer on whether the terms prevent such actions and to have a business continuity plan. If the vendor does something egregious, like shutdown all accounts, then your lawyer can ship them a nice letter which will get their attention
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  > At a certain size (...) I think this is key. > Same IP ban is also not likely (...) Thanks for answering! I had no idea.
- funny_falcon 5y ago
  > Credit cards should never be linked across accounts thanks to PCI-DSS complince Afaik, PCI-DSS doesn't prevent you to store cryptographic hashes of card. Therefore cards still could be linked with hashes.

grepfru_it 5y ago

At a certain size, your org should be a resale partner with whatever cloud service it is, so the end customers are getting their own accounts. This varies by size and $$$ spent. Credit cards should never be linked across accounts thanks to PCI-DSS complince Same IP ban is also not likely unless you are actually doing nefarious things across multiple accounts. I am also making the assumption you are connecting from some business account and not a residential ISP, though that is changing thanks to covid. FWIW, I have worked at many companies where offices of 300-500 proxy outbound traffic to a single IP, that’s why I don’t believe this is a concern. The ultimate problem is when you have several logical partition but no billing partition. Also the large marketing firm I worked at had zero phone support with Facebook and Google, yet we did this all day (with a single IP address). This all boils down to one common thread: you should be taking advice from a lawyer on whether the terms prevent such actions and to have a business continuity plan. If the vendor does something egregious, like shutdown all accounts, then your lawyer can ship them a nice letter which will get their attention

nextaccountic 5y ago
> At a certain size (...) I think this is key. > Same IP ban is also not likely (...) Thanks for answering! I had no idea.
funny_falcon 5y ago
> Credit cards should never be linked across accounts thanks to PCI-DSS complince Afaik, PCI-DSS doesn't prevent you to store cryptographic hashes of card. Therefore cards still could be linked with hashes.