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Wait until you hear about public employees unions: they literally vote in the management with whom they are negotiating for pay and benefits!
by paisawalla 5y ago
Wait until you hear about public employees unions: they literally vote in the management with whom they are negotiating for pay and benefits!
- xenocyon 5y agoUnions vote for union leadership, not management. Are you speaking of general elections? While some executive positions are elected rather than appointed, they are still elected by the public at large, not by union members. In fact, public sector management is generally not pro-union any more than private sector management.
- paisawalla 5y agoPublic unions are among the biggest spenders (directly and through donations) in general elections, the outcomes of which directly affect the negotiating postures of the organizations they staff.
- pessimizer 5y agoOf course they are, and should be. They still aren't the only people that get to vote in elections, though.
- paisawalla 5y agoAh, you must believe then either that money has no influence on politics, or that it's right for public employees to vote themselves pay raises and benefits from the tax coffers. As a taxpayer, I find this latter situation to be an obvious and massive conflict of interest.
- namdnay 5y agoSo just like employees with stock?
- paisawalla 5y agoI've never heard of employees lobbying (by spending hundreds of millions of dollars) all other shareholders to vote in one of their own as a board member. Have you? More over, a legislator has way more influence over a public agency than a board member does over a company.
- pessimizer 5y agoYour analogy is broken, Unions don't lobby voters, they lobby politicians just like everyone else.
- paisawalla 5y agoYou know someone has no point when they have to resort to pedantry. Call it lobbying, advertising, propagandizing, or whatever you like. The effect is the same.