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> Dozens of employees and executives have left the group [...] > more than 3,700 full-time employees, according to recent internal data viewed by Insider. Rou
by jsnell 5y ago
> Dozens of employees and executives have left the group
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> more than 3,700 full-time employees, according to recent internal data viewed by Insider. Roughly half of those were previously overseen by Sengupta.
Do I read correctly that "dozens" out of about 1800 people have left since April? Is that an abnormally high number, especially right after things started opening up again after the pandemic?
- villasv 5y agoA 10% turnover rate in 4 months is pretty high, though I don’t know their baseline.
- jsnell 5y ago10% is 180. That seems pretty far outside of the expected range of "dozens".
- villasv 5y agoTrue lol I misread. So it’s close to 1% in 4 months or 3-4% a year, which should be pretty normal
- Ekaros 5y agoYeah, let's say average tenure is 5 years. Wouldn't that indicate that each year 20% of workforce would leave?
- itsdrewmiller 5y agoIt depends if you're including the tenure of all the people who have departed or not - AFAIK most places don't, which skews the numbers tremendously.
- munk-a 5y agoGoogle has been rolling out an astoundingly aggressive anti-remote policy from what we've heard - and it's probably even more aggressive internally. I wouldn't be surprised if they're just losing a lot of the folks that realized quality of life matters to them.
- kyrra 5y agoGoogler, opinion is my own. Says who? They are allowing people to apply for full remote, with an estimated 8500 so far approved. https://www.businessinsider.com/google-approved-85-of-roughly-10000-remote-work-relocation-requests-2021-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-approved-85-of-roughl...
- Infinitesimus 5y agoFrom the article > "The company also turned down requests where organizations "made a commitment to invest in key growth sites and are working to build their teams and critical mass in those particular hubs," Google told Insider." That reads like "if someone in your organization chain said they want to build a hub in your region, we'll probably deny your request because headcount need to be filled for those hubs" Which is fair for the company to do but you can see why that can trigger attrition too.
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- kyrra 5y agoPoint taken, thanks for raising it. I could definitely see some newer sites have that issue that require local teams until critical mass is hit. I guess the sites I tend to work with are already very well established, so people I've seen apply have all been accepted (of the ones I know).
- travelbuffoon 5y agoSome people aren’t even applying because their orgs have made it clear that remote won’t be approved, and some people are being denied for spurious reasons. (Best one I’ve seen is: personal reasons not strong enough for remote.) So it’s not as rosy as it seems.
- donavanm 5y ago10-15% annual attrition is normal. If this is ~36 total departures in a quarter (2%) its entirely in line. But if its 36 in addition to some unspecified baseline it would be a moderate problem.
- peakaboo 5y agoI heard that Google has decided to force everyone to get vaccinated before the end of August if they want to remain employed. I don't know if people leaving has something to do with that, but personally, I would leave immediately.