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Just rolled through McDonald's and every lane has huge signs saying they'll pay for your college and training and sign-on bonus and.... I want money to purchas

• rdtwo 5y ago
  The college stuff is a scam because most can’t collect and the hours aren’t flexible enough to allow it. It might also get preferential tax treatment
  • MattGaiser 5y ago
    A lot of the college stuff offered by places like Walmart is a select few online degrees at places like Southern New Hampshire. Basically programs with a very low marginal cost.
    • Godel_unicode 5y ago
      The first result of a Google for this program tells you that the criteria for McDonalds is: """Courses must be taken at a degree or certificate granting college or university, accredited by the U.S. Department of Education."""
  • jdavis703 5y ago
    I don’t know about the collection part, but folks can take virtual classes these days (this was true even before the pandemic.)
  • chrismcb 5y ago
    Unless things have changed, how are the hours not flexible? I thought that was half the point of McDonald's.
    • MagicWishMonkey 5y ago
      No fast food jobs have flexible hours. You’re lucky if you have any say in your hours at all.
    • DangitBobby 5y ago
      The hours are entirely arbitrary and unpredictable and often make it very difficult to coordinate time off with friends and family. It's like they're in their own lonely little world.
• bsder 5y ago
  Because McDonalds can take away all the auxiliaries without consequence. However, lawyers will come after them if they try to reduce your wage later.
  • ABCLAW 5y ago
    A McDonald's wage isn't going to pay for representation, so you better hope there's easy evidence to be had that what's happening to you is a policy-level scheme to defraud employees so you can attempt a class action. The irony is that mistreating low-level employees actually reduces litigation liability if they can't co-ordinate. The less you pay them, the less they can afford litigation, both from a time and money perspective.
    • sangnoir 5y ago
      > A McDonald's wage isn't going to pay for representation, The Department of Labor has lawyers too! They'd be happy to look into wage theft complaints for free.
• jccalhoun 5y ago
  For businesses like McDonalds, the choice is pay people more now or promise to give them something in the future if they remember to do it and followthrough will all the hoops. Most people won't follow through on the promise of college or training or whatever so all it costs them is the money to print up the sign.
  • nell 5y ago
    Only because this is true, they are willing to spend $X,000 in tuition. If the bar is low, the reward would be too.
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• jcfrei 5y ago
  Two reasons come to mind: Wages are sticky, especially on the down-side. If they pay more now they will have a hard time reducing that pay. New hires might refuse to work if they know what a previous employee was paid, etc. And the current lack in labor supply is considered temporary by most companies.
  • mrfusion 5y ago
    Pay a monthly bonus based on profits then?
  • makeitdouble 5y ago
    To chime on mrfusion’s point, temporary bonus is the dedicated way to do it. It can be for any reason, and you can clearly state it’s only for this month, or until the pandemic ends, or whatever. Nobody will hang them over the fire when it ends and it helps adapt to conjectures.
• cma 5y ago
  Seems pretty insane when they have an operating margin of 40%, but I think that's looking at the corporation and not the franchisees.
• ourmandave 5y ago
  Perhaps this is the return of "I worked my way through college!" that people trot out when tuition was 1/3rd the cost it is today.
  • cableshaft 5y ago
    *1/3rd the cost adjusted for inflation, even.
• sriram_sun 5y ago
  From https://www.archwaystoopportunity.com/tuition_assistance.html https://www.archwaystoopportunity.com/tuition_assistance.htm...: "You are eligible for $5,250 in Tuition Assistance if: * You have a performance rating of “significant performance” or better, maintained throughout the course/program. * Notify your Supervisor of your participation or You are eligible for $2,500 in Tuition Assistance each year if: * You are employed by McDonald’s for at least 90 cumulative days. * You work an average of 15 hours per week or more. * You have a performance rating of “significant performance” or better, maintained throughout the course/program." Just adding some information to the discussion. $2.50 extra per hr for 2000 hrs (typical hours worked in a year) is $5000.
  • nerdponx 5y ago
    The difference is that the extra pay isn't contingent on and arbitrary performance review process and maintaining a certain level of hours. I'd probably rather take the extra pay in that situation.