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Only 66% of Israelis are fully vaccinated: there's a good 3 million hard-core religious orthodox who won't let science interfere with their deity's will. 3 mil

by eecc 5y ago

Only 66% of Israelis are fully vaccinated: there's a good 3 million hard-core religious orthodox who won't let science interfere with their deity's will. 3 million of blissfully and deliberately ignorant individuals who won't adapt their social behavior to avoid viral spread is more than enough to overrun any health system.

walterbell 5y ago
How many of those were infected and recovered in the last 18 months?
- undersuit 5y ago
  How many were infected multiple times in the last 18 months?
  - walterbell 5y ago
    I don't have the Israel numbers, but UK data shows 137 confirmed cases of reinfection out of 5.2 million first-positive PCR tests, which works out to 0.003%, see charge on page 18, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012240/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w33.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
    - bodyfour 5y ago
      I would be cautious about interpreting those numbers without a bit of nuance. The original spring 2020 outbreak in the UK was huge, affecting a sizable percentage of the population. However at that time PCR testing was nowhere near scaled up to the point that all of these cases could be tested. Therefore if you were infected in the first wave, recovered, and are now reinfected 16 months later you probably aren't going to be one of those 137 because it's quite unlikely you were PCR tested the first time around. That's not to say reinfection is super-common either, but it's probably at least an order of magnitude (or possibly even two) more common than that raw percentage would suggest. In other words, you've produced a statistic with zero significant figures of accuracy.
  - SergeAx 5y ago
    I was infected 3 times in last 9 months, according to my IgG level. First time I was one day away of hospitalization, 20% lungs damaged. Second time it was 37.1C temperature for 3 days (for those from imperial system, norm in 36.9) and no other symptoms. Third time I didn't notice at all.
flyinglizard 5y ago
It's closer to 1 million than 3 million. There are about 6 million vaccinated out of a nation of 9 million, but that's also including kids 0-12. The number I know is about 1 million eligible who refuse the shot. It's not the ultra orthodox who really stand out. There's about 30% in the general 20-29 groups who haven't taken their shots (going down to about 20% in 30-39 and down to 10% in the 60+ group), and many Arabs who are reluctant to do so too.

by eecc 5y ago

walterbell 5y ago

How many of those were infected and recovered in the last 18 months?

undersuit 5y ago
How many were infected multiple times in the last 18 months?
- walterbell 5y ago
  I don't have the Israel numbers, but UK data shows 137 confirmed cases of reinfection out of 5.2 million first-positive PCR tests, which works out to 0.003%, see charge on page 18, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012240/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w33.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
  - bodyfour 5y ago
    I would be cautious about interpreting those numbers without a bit of nuance. The original spring 2020 outbreak in the UK was huge, affecting a sizable percentage of the population. However at that time PCR testing was nowhere near scaled up to the point that all of these cases could be tested. Therefore if you were infected in the first wave, recovered, and are now reinfected 16 months later you probably aren't going to be one of those 137 because it's quite unlikely you were PCR tested the first time around. That's not to say reinfection is super-common either, but it's probably at least an order of magnitude (or possibly even two) more common than that raw percentage would suggest. In other words, you've produced a statistic with zero significant figures of accuracy.
- SergeAx 5y ago
  I was infected 3 times in last 9 months, according to my IgG level. First time I was one day away of hospitalization, 20% lungs damaged. Second time it was 37.1C temperature for 3 days (for those from imperial system, norm in 36.9) and no other symptoms. Third time I didn't notice at all.

flyinglizard 5y ago

It's closer to 1 million than 3 million. There are about 6 million vaccinated out of a nation of 9 million, but that's also including kids 0-12. The number I know is about 1 million eligible who refuse the shot. It's not the ultra orthodox who really stand out. There's about 30% in the general 20-29 groups who haven't taken their shots (going down to about 20% in 30-39 and down to 10% in the 60+ group), and many Arabs who are reluctant to do so too.