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Do you have awareness that your anecdotal data, even if it were more than anecdotal, still would not prove that the shots you've taken reduced the symptoms, as

Do you have awareness that your anecdotal data, even if it were more than anecdotal, still would not prove that the shots you've taken reduced the symptoms, as many cases are asymptomatic / mild symptoms anyways?

jmfldn 5y ago
Sure, it's anecdotal not proof and in no way scientific my self assessment. I've just noticed a trend amongst friends recently.
- tommymachine 5y ago
  The criticism I made wasn't about the anecdotal nature of your post, but the lack of logic in the conclusions you drew from it. It's amazing how people of your persuasion must avoid at all cost viewing their own thinking from a logical framework.
  - jmfldn 5y ago
    The point in my sharing this as 'anecdotal' is that this is my subjective view, and that from where I sit, these conclusions might follow but the correlation might be coincidental too. I.e maybe I avoided serious illness for some other reason; maybe I have no antibodies and the vaccine didn't trigger a response in me but I'm one of many who had it mildly. There are any number of other possible explanations. I'm not making any scientific logically bullet proof statements here, I'm speaking as an armchair pundit thinking "hmm, seems like a lot of vaccinated people I know have the virus all of a sudden. Seems like vaccines might be helping with the severity of the illness, maybe I was one of them. However, I wonder if all this means we should exercise just a bit more caution until we're sure this high infection rate isn't a problem in the overall fight we're engaged in". The actual hard logic and policy I'll leave to the scientists and policy makers but, in the UK, at least the latter have a chequered history.
  - technothrasher 5y ago
    You invoke "you people" and then draw an unfounded and non-sequitur conclusion about your interlocutor's motivation while asking them to think with a logical framework???

jmfldn 5y ago

Sure, it's anecdotal not proof and in no way scientific my self assessment. I've just noticed a trend amongst friends recently.

tommymachine 5y ago
The criticism I made wasn't about the anecdotal nature of your post, but the lack of logic in the conclusions you drew from it. It's amazing how people of your persuasion must avoid at all cost viewing their own thinking from a logical framework.
- jmfldn 5y ago
  The point in my sharing this as 'anecdotal' is that this is my subjective view, and that from where I sit, these conclusions might follow but the correlation might be coincidental too. I.e maybe I avoided serious illness for some other reason; maybe I have no antibodies and the vaccine didn't trigger a response in me but I'm one of many who had it mildly. There are any number of other possible explanations. I'm not making any scientific logically bullet proof statements here, I'm speaking as an armchair pundit thinking "hmm, seems like a lot of vaccinated people I know have the virus all of a sudden. Seems like vaccines might be helping with the severity of the illness, maybe I was one of them. However, I wonder if all this means we should exercise just a bit more caution until we're sure this high infection rate isn't a problem in the overall fight we're engaged in". The actual hard logic and policy I'll leave to the scientists and policy makers but, in the UK, at least the latter have a chequered history.
- technothrasher 5y ago
  You invoke "you people" and then draw an unfounded and non-sequitur conclusion about your interlocutor's motivation while asking them to think with a logical framework???