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a bit more A bit more until the virus decides to go away? Or a bit more until they invent a non-leaky vaccine? Or a bit more like when the cows come home? B

a bit more A bit more until the virus decides to go away? Or a bit more until they invent a non-leaky vaccine? Or a bit more like when the cows come home? Because that's what you are talking about. A bit more forever.

TeMPOraL 5y ago
A bit more until, by combination of the virus mutating to less dangerous forms and everyone's immune system being primed against it, it settles somewhere between common cold and the flu.
- jmfldn 5y ago
  Yes someone thing like this. Exactly where we draw the line now is the hard question. I don't think we're massively off the mark but I feel we could be proceeding a bit more slowly is all. I'm not advocating the reverse gear or massively changing course. We're not quite out of the woods is the point.
- CheezeIt 5y ago
  It’s already well outside the top causes of death among the vaccinated.
dragontamer 5y ago
Lets start with "Lets be precautious until hospitals stop triage of care". Maybe we should be precautious until hospitalization levels return to something looking like normal. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/joel-valdez-houston-covid-hospitals/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/joel-valdez... > Man shot 6 times waits more than a week for surgery after hospital is overwhelmed by covid --------- When our hospitals are full, we should be cautious. When our hospitals empty out, we can open up a bit more. This obviously is location-dependent (and higher-vaccinated areas can afford to open up more). But the absolute goal in every location is to keep hospitals functioning, and the relative stress levels of doctors / nurses at a reasonable level. I know in my state, we've been having to employ student nurses before they've graduated, so that there's enough staff around. As long as hospitals feel the need for emergency measures, we need to be precautious and doing what we can to clamp down on the sickness.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  Keeping hospitals functioning should be a minimum goal. (like, you wouldn't reduce vaccination effort just because the load on hospitals eased up, high levels of vaccination is a reasonable goal unto itself)
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  Blaming Covid specifically for hospital overflow is a fallacy. It's just the straw that broke the camel's back. Obesity/poor diet require an incredible amount of healthcare resources. Government subsidies of corn play no small factor. Ending subsidies for unhealthy foods is completely within our control unlike infections from new diseases. If we wanted to free up hospital resources we could have done that a year ago with a simple sugar/high fructose syrup tax.
rolph 5y ago
a bit more until the virus runs out of variants, or in a very rare case becomes able to duck the immune system. a bit more until there are no more infectable hosts, and a variant spills over from our species of succeptability to another of succeptability that will allow greater transmission, wash rinse repeat. this or very similar has happened 6 or perhaps 7 times as evidenced by the endemic corona virus we all experience on a regular basis

TeMPOraL 5y ago

A bit more until, by combination of the virus mutating to less dangerous forms and everyone's immune system being primed against it, it settles somewhere between common cold and the flu.

jmfldn 5y ago
Yes someone thing like this. Exactly where we draw the line now is the hard question. I don't think we're massively off the mark but I feel we could be proceeding a bit more slowly is all. I'm not advocating the reverse gear or massively changing course. We're not quite out of the woods is the point.
CheezeIt 5y ago
It’s already well outside the top causes of death among the vaccinated.

dragontamer 5y ago

Lets start with "Lets be precautious until hospitals stop triage of care". Maybe we should be precautious until hospitalization levels return to something looking like normal. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/joel-valdez-houston-covid-hospitals/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/joel-valdez... > Man shot 6 times waits more than a week for surgery after hospital is overwhelmed by covid --------- When our hospitals are full, we should be cautious. When our hospitals empty out, we can open up a bit more. This obviously is location-dependent (and higher-vaccinated areas can afford to open up more). But the absolute goal in every location is to keep hospitals functioning, and the relative stress levels of doctors / nurses at a reasonable level. I know in my state, we've been having to employ student nurses before they've graduated, so that there's enough staff around. As long as hospitals feel the need for emergency measures, we need to be precautious and doing what we can to clamp down on the sickness.

maxerickson 5y ago
Keeping hospitals functioning should be a minimum goal. (like, you wouldn't reduce vaccination effort just because the load on hospitals eased up, high levels of vaccination is a reasonable goal unto itself)
ErikVandeWater 5y ago
Blaming Covid specifically for hospital overflow is a fallacy. It's just the straw that broke the camel's back. Obesity/poor diet require an incredible amount of healthcare resources. Government subsidies of corn play no small factor. Ending subsidies for unhealthy foods is completely within our control unlike infections from new diseases. If we wanted to free up hospital resources we could have done that a year ago with a simple sugar/high fructose syrup tax.

rolph 5y ago

a bit more until the virus runs out of variants, or in a very rare case becomes able to duck the immune system. a bit more until there are no more infectable hosts, and a variant spills over from our species of succeptability to another of succeptability that will allow greater transmission, wash rinse repeat. this or very similar has happened 6 or perhaps 7 times as evidenced by the endemic corona virus we all experience on a regular basis