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My brother in law is black and in Tech, and not African American just straight up African. He doesn't have an issue with it.

• wolverine876 5y ago
  One example of hearsay from someone somebody on a message board knows is not evidence, and it doesn't change my point: If people are talking about Github, they probably are white.
  • adamrezich 5y ago
    "everyone should make this change to their language because it's offensive to $MINORITY" "but you, and pretty much everyone else espousing this, aren't $MINORITY, why do you feel the need to speak on their behalf?" "well there aren't a lot of $MINORITY in this industry, and there's all sorts of reasons why minorities don't want to speak up about something like this because of discrimination in their workplace" "ok here's a $MINORITY I know personally, he doesn't have a problem with it" "that's just anecdotal evidence and should thus be disregarded" infantilizing minorities will never not be disgusting
    • wolverine876 5y ago
      How did the GP infantilize anyone? The GGP was simply not evidence.
      • adamrezich 5y ago
        if someone is advocating for changing language for everyone to protect the feelings of $MINORITY, without actually knowing any $MINORITY that objects to said language (or being one themselves), then disregards anecdotal instances of $MINORITY not objecting to said language, then the result is a belief that you know what changes to society should be made on behalf of $MINORITY, thus infantilizing them, portraying them as someone who can't speak up for themselves and portraying yourself as someone who knows better than $MINORITY what is best for $MINORITY.
    • JoeAltmaier 5y ago
      Everybody should speak their mind about correct behavior. I see somebody rob an old lady, I don't 'speak on her behalf' when objecting to the robbery. It's funny how the objections to talking about racism, always center around silencing the discussion.
    • dang 5y ago
      Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've done it a lot, and it's not what this site is for. This thread may not be great but your comments are standing out as more flamey than the rest. This is the opposite of how we want comments to go here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html p.s. please also don't call names, like you did at the end here. That's also against the site guidelines.
      • adamrezich 5y ago
        what name did I call someone? I strive to specifically not use ad hominem-type insults when discussing things, and I don't see it here? should I just stop posting any thoughts I have that run contrary to the general sphere of accepted thought here? should I take downvotes to mean "we don't want to hear what you have to say"? if I post something that others find disagreeable and reply to it saying as such, should I just abstain from responding?
        • dang 5y ago
          The word "disgusting" at the end of the flamebait sentence in your GP comment counts as calling names in the sense that the HN guidelines use the term: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You don't have to stop posting contrary thoughts, but you definitely have to stop posting flamebait. Teasing those two things apart isn't always easy, especially when the nervous system is running high with strong feelings (I'm not talking about you, but about all of us). Those sort of comments are not what HN is for, regardless of how conformist or contrarian they are. What we want is curious conversation. If you can comment from that place, then it's fine, and as a bonus, your comments will be more likely to engage curiosity in others. It all requires a much lighter touch.
          • adamrezich 5y ago
            I see, thank you. I believe I understand, finally (including retroactively for recent posts). the only thing I'm fuzzy on is where the line of "flamebait" is drawn. was this whole thread flamebait, or just my flagged post specifically?
  • loopz 5y ago
    Well, that means nothing if only white dudes use Github. The only twitter account I find worth voluntarily stepping into that pool, is this though: https://twitter.com/desiraethinking https://twitter.com/desiraethinking Of course linked to many others sharing similar opinions and free-thinking spirit, as opposed to political identity and bigotry.
  • hpoe 5y ago
    Yes but you said that we should talk to someone who is black. I just said I did.
    • wolverine876 5y ago
      I didn't say that.