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Very hidden. The 11.5.2 patch from last week had no release notes (https://eclecticlight.co/2021/08/15/last-week-on-my-mac-trust-apple/ https://eclecticlight.co

Very hidden. The 11.5.2 patch from last week had no release notes (https://eclecticlight.co/2021/08/15/last-week-on-my-mac-trust-apple/ https://eclecticlight.co/2021/08/15/last-week-on-my-mac-trus...), and Apple replied to inquiries with "No further details on the Big Sur 11.5.2 update will be released" (https://twitter.com/ClassicII_MrMac/status/1425632779262431232 https://twitter.com/ClassicII_MrMac/status/14256327792624312...).

tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
IIRC it didn't just have no release notes, it explicitly claimed not to contain security patches. Although I may be misremembering or may have been misled by an ambiguous message. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 lists it as being a security update but "This update has no published CVE entries." (emphasis mine) implying some nasty but embargoed security issue.
busymom0 5y ago
I am an iOS and MacOS developer and have gotten my updates rejected for my release notes not being descriptive enough of what it changes. Yet Apple regularly gives exceptions to the big guys like Facebook, Uber etc apps and now themselves. Apple’s developer guidelines specifically warn developers to not put vague release notes but the rules often get partially applied.
- laurent92 5y ago
  Youtube’s release notes: “Fixed bugs, improved performance, took the afternoon off”.
  - hulitu 5y ago
    This is valid for all google aps.
    - foxX 5y ago
      Fixed bugs, improved performance, took the afternoon off, ~project got cancelled~, ~team~ got restructured, the intern.
peakaboo 5y ago
Both Microsoft and Apple are treating users like they don't care now. And probably 99.99999% of the users don't. Today you have to run Linux to control your computer yourself.
- omginternets 5y ago
  What's the state of running Linux on Mac hardware these days?
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    On Intel: Works pretty well. No longer a need to have special ISOs like Ubuntu used to have. You do have to turn off the "secure boot" on newer systems with T2 chip (using the startup security utility in recovery mode) On M1: Still in progress. Linux boots but the kinks have to be worked out. Not production quality yet.
    - omginternets 5y ago
      >On Intel: Works pretty well. Oh, cool! I have one of the last Macbook pros with an Intel chip, so it sounds like I'm probably in the "secure boot" category. Does the trackpad work well?
      - GekkePrutser 5y ago
        Good question, I haven't tried it on one that recent. But on my older ones it worked fine. Even gestures. Not as smooth as on macOS though.
- Razengan 5y ago
  > Today you have to run Linux to control your computer yourself. To control your operating system. Your hardware will still have shit like IME and whatnot.
- hulitu 5y ago
  In soviet russia the computer controls you. It's funny to see Apple with 1984 ad and Microsoft which said that GPL is communistic apply the same tactics as the KGB and Soviet politburo. I think that people never learn because they are so happy to embrace the future.

tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago

IIRC it didn't just have no release notes, it explicitly claimed not to contain security patches. Although I may be misremembering or may have been misled by an ambiguous message. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 lists it as being a security update but "This update has no published CVE entries." (emphasis mine) implying some nasty but embargoed security issue.

busymom0 5y ago

I am an iOS and MacOS developer and have gotten my updates rejected for my release notes not being descriptive enough of what it changes. Yet Apple regularly gives exceptions to the big guys like Facebook, Uber etc apps and now themselves. Apple’s developer guidelines specifically warn developers to not put vague release notes but the rules often get partially applied.

laurent92 5y ago
Youtube’s release notes: “Fixed bugs, improved performance, took the afternoon off”.
- hulitu 5y ago
  This is valid for all google aps.
  - foxX 5y ago
    Fixed bugs, improved performance, took the afternoon off, ~project got cancelled~, ~team~ got restructured, the intern.

peakaboo 5y ago

Both Microsoft and Apple are treating users like they don't care now. And probably 99.99999% of the users don't. Today you have to run Linux to control your computer yourself.

omginternets 5y ago
What's the state of running Linux on Mac hardware these days?
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  On Intel: Works pretty well. No longer a need to have special ISOs like Ubuntu used to have. You do have to turn off the "secure boot" on newer systems with T2 chip (using the startup security utility in recovery mode) On M1: Still in progress. Linux boots but the kinks have to be worked out. Not production quality yet.
  - omginternets 5y ago
    >On Intel: Works pretty well. Oh, cool! I have one of the last Macbook pros with an Intel chip, so it sounds like I'm probably in the "secure boot" category. Does the trackpad work well?
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Good question, I haven't tried it on one that recent. But on my older ones it worked fine. Even gestures. Not as smooth as on macOS though.
Razengan 5y ago
> Today you have to run Linux to control your computer yourself. To control your operating system. Your hardware will still have shit like IME and whatnot.
hulitu 5y ago
In soviet russia the computer controls you. It's funny to see Apple with 1984 ad and Microsoft which said that GPL is communistic apply the same tactics as the KGB and Soviet politburo. I think that people never learn because they are so happy to embrace the future.