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> - Lockdowns should have stopped covid. Not everyone cooperated with lockdowns, rendering them less effective. > - Masks should have stopped covid. Not ever
by ssklash 5y ago
> - Lockdowns should have stopped covid.
Not everyone cooperated with lockdowns, rendering them less effective.
> - Masks should have stopped covid.
Not everyone wore masks, rendering them less effective.
> - Vaccines should have stopped covid.
Not everyone is getting vaccinated, rendering it less effective.
I see a pattern here with an obvious solution, and it's not doubting the "true" science and declaring ourselves epidemiologists, virologists, and public health experts.
- travoc 5y agoEach of these scenarios was predictable and in fact, predicted by many. Yet here we are, still pretending to be shocked at the intensity of human autonomy. If your plan requires everyone on earth to cooperate, it’s not a good plan.
- ssklash 5y agoYou realize that the way other diseases were eradicated required the cooperation of everyone on earth? Or at least in most countries. The reason we don't get polio in virtually any country on earth is because of global cooperation in the face of a disease with a known mitigation. Barely 500 known cases world-wide in 2019. Thanks to global cooperation. Too bad propaganda and social media probably ruined our chances of repeating such a feat...
- xienze 5y ago> The reason we don't get polio in virtually any country on earth is because of global cooperation in the face of a disease with a known mitigation. The polio vaccine being a sterilizing one is certainly a _major_ reason for its success. The Covid vaccine, by contrast, does not confer sterilizing immunity. Polio also spreads through contaminated food and water, not the exhaled breath of the infected. So other than those minor things, great comparison.
- ssklash 5y agoI'd say another major reason for the polio vaccine's success is the whole world took it. Substitute mumps, measles, rubella, smallpox, whatever you'd like. Anyway you totally missed the point about global cooperation. We know masks, social distancing, and vaccination with enough cooperation could end the pandemic, but no, people just won't cooperate.
- betwixthewires 5y agoIf your solution requires every person on earth to obey you it's not much of a solution, and "everyone didn't obey" is an excuse to why your non solution predictably did not work.