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Turns out Google culturally has a hard time playing nice with other large partners? Color me shocked. Minor story as perspective. Initiative was hatched to ext
by ethbr0 5y ago
Turns out Google culturally has a hard time playing nice with other large partners? Color me shocked.
Minor story as perspective. Initiative was hatched to extend Google Maps Street View inside of buildings. High level meetings were held. No technical roadblocks.
Deal eventually killed, because Google was unwilling to provide their raw data to the buildings' owner, for their own uses.
You're hamstringing a feature on your own app because you don't want to ship the data you collect to the person you're collecting it from? mind boggles
- rejectedandsad 5y agoIt’s arrogance *ingrained in the culture. I guess that’s what happens when you tell people that they’re special, constantly, while at work.
- amsheehan 5y agoI don't think I'm breaking any NDAs by saying that that is just entirely not what happens.
- nickff 5y ago>" I don't think I'm breaking any NDAs by saying that that is just entirely not what happens. " Could you please rephrase this? I don't understand that sentence.
- prepend 5y agoThanks I was wondering too. I think it means “it happens partially” but that can’t be right as it doesn’t seem noteworthy. Although glad that GP isn’t breaking NDAs with that fortune teller statement.
- rejectedandsad 5y agoMy guess is that it was just a way to rebut the accusation by bragging about working there. I’m not sure that it worked though.
- 0x0nyandesu 5y agoBingo. This is it. Every Google employee thinks they are hot shit even when they get nothing done.
- nebula8804 5y agoI wish I was a Google employee getting paid tons of money to get nothing done. Being Bighead is the American Dream. [1]:https://youtu.be/ZpL-ZBNiGjE?t=203 https://youtu.be/ZpL-ZBNiGjE?t=203
- georgeburdell 5y agoTo be fair this is what happens when you hire entirely from the technical Ivy League. No one wants to do the last 10% that's really the last 80% of the work because it doesn't carry the same visibility. For what it's worth, Google, or at least some subsegment, does seem to be trying to fix this issue. I had a somewhat offensive conversation with a recruiter recently where they told me they're looking for people (like me) with non-standard backgrounds who don't necessarily have the pedigree that the usual Google SWE hire has. I hope they also extend this thinking to moms with young children. I know a good many technical women who fell off the career ladder after having children and were never seem to be able to get a chance to get back on, ultimately taking jobs far beneath their abilities or just shifting industries altogether.
- ethbr0 5y agoApparently the "P" in your middle name stands for "non-standard Pedigree"?
- analyst74 5y agoI think their elite school preference is only for new grads, the experienced pipeline has always been open to people with less pedigree.
- rejectedandsad 5y agoThey’ll give interviews to most and downplay the difficulty of the interviews on social forums in order to keep the accept rate low. You have to be an intellectual elite in order to pass the interviews either way.
- mrRandomGuy 5y agoLook no further than when Google decided to deprecate `alert()` on Chrome. Bunch of clowns with their heads so far up their asses they're inside out.
- lima 5y agoTo be fair, deprecating that is a good idea. They botched the execution.
- mulmen 5y agoDepends on Google's philosophy. Are features a means to an end or the end itself? It's not surprising that Google would decide not to do something if it doesn't serve their goals.
- dheera 5y agoOh yes. I stopped using Nest equipment after I encountered an API rate limit error. Excuse me? It's my device, don't rate limit me.
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- vntok 5y agoWhat were you doing to reach the API limit? Were you circumventing the terms of use? Also, what do you mean, "it's my device. Don't rate limit me"? Do you own Nest's network? If not, why are you mixing owning a network with owing a device?
- dheera 5y agoNo. I own the device, I should have a way to get real time data and issue however many requests I want to it. It doesn't have to be through their network, they should provide a method of local access then.
- wmf 5y agoDidn't Google Books have the same policy with libraries? We scan your books and in exchange... of course we don't give you the scans.
- tmccrary55 5y agoIn exchange, we'll give each of you a 90 day free Stadia subscription!
- caslon 5y agoThe initial goal of Google Books was to make the scans publicly available to everyone, but then the copyright system got in the way. Blame our politicians, not Google, for that one.
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- AlbertCory 5y agoThere was an excellent article [1] in The Atlantic about the Books project. It was really a tragic situation which no one in Congress of either party is interested in fixing. Full disclosure: I joined Google in 2005 when this was still an active project, and in fact walked around GWC-3 and saw the Yellow Badge people (great symbolism there) taking their breaks. These were contractors who actually scanned the books for Burger King-level wages, and whose badges wouldn't even let them into the micro-kitchens. Anyhow, I don't know if the University of Michigan (early volunteer) was supposed to get the scans. Supposedly, the whole world would. That didn't happen and you can read [1] for details. As of 2015, at least, not even a Google employee could get at them. I was told I could go to someone's desk and read the book on their computer if I really wanted to see it (this was for patent research). [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/04/the-tragedy-of-google-books/523320/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/04/the-t...
- ethbr0 5y agoEmphasis plays a bit differently given increased awareness around diverse hiring, but as timely now as it was in 1981. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI
- spideymans 5y agoGoogle’s Sidewalk Labs “smart city” initiative in Toronto was canceled for similar reasons. Google wanted to collect all the data, refused to share any of the data with the municipality and refused to take any measures to address the privacy concerns. Google’s arrogance and their refusal to work with stakeholders in a productive manner insured the death of the proposal.