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I think you missed this part of their comment: > Unless you want to be a trend-setter or do some artistic expression through your clothing. In those cases a hu

I think you missed this part of their comment: > Unless you want to be a trend-setter or do some artistic expression through your clothing. In those cases a human stylist does make sense. But for the regular Joe, I think a well trained algorithm can perform better than a human. And your comment: > An algorithm will aim to make you look similar to what other people like you look like. It will not push boundaries or riff on creative 'happy accidents' because it can't. Correct - I think that's what most people want. Style is defined at the high end to a very limited audience and derivative variations of it are built on further derivative variations as it flows down the classes until it so distorted it simply dissolves. Every turn of that crank is another group of people trying to look like other people (and thus offending the tastes of the group being copied).

robocat 5y ago
> Style is defined at the high end to a very limited audience and derivative variations of it are built on further derivative variations as it flows down the classes That is a very clichéd haute couture definition — a la “Devil Wears Prada - Cerulean Top” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-KQij0I8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-KQij0I8I That trickle-down definition of style is relevant perhaps within some groups of people. I think that most subcultures have their own highly independent styles, and within that you have people with their own independent riffs on the general subculture style. Do you not think that many subcultures have their own style that isn’t derivative/trickle-down?
- nemo44x 5y ago
  For sure. Certain subcultures have aesthetics that are not started at the top. However, these subcultures at times could be thought of as culturally elite (and very much adored by upper class tastemakers) and their fashion in some cases manages the same derivative cycle. For instance, “Grunge” culture which had an aesthetic that was very much not haute of course. But it was culturally elite at the time and very quickly their styles were derived for mainstream consumption. But even so, haute will deconstruct the parts they like, integrate it, and so it passes. Other subcultures of course never break through. Regardless, most clothing is purchased from retailers that mass produce things. You could probably tier rank them accordingly from designers to boutiques to small retailers on up to big box shops that you can find anywhere. You see the same thing in other cultural artifacts like cuisine. Haute Cuisine doesn’t start every trend but it isn’t afraid to discover something outside the mainstream, riff on it, and then it works it’s way into the middle.

robocat 5y ago

> Style is defined at the high end to a very limited audience and derivative variations of it are built on further derivative variations as it flows down the classes That is a very clichéd haute couture definition — a la “Devil Wears Prada - Cerulean Top” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-KQij0I8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-KQij0I8I That trickle-down definition of style is relevant perhaps within some groups of people. I think that most subcultures have their own highly independent styles, and within that you have people with their own independent riffs on the general subculture style. Do you not think that many subcultures have their own style that isn’t derivative/trickle-down?

nemo44x 5y ago
For sure. Certain subcultures have aesthetics that are not started at the top. However, these subcultures at times could be thought of as culturally elite (and very much adored by upper class tastemakers) and their fashion in some cases manages the same derivative cycle. For instance, “Grunge” culture which had an aesthetic that was very much not haute of course. But it was culturally elite at the time and very quickly their styles were derived for mainstream consumption. But even so, haute will deconstruct the parts they like, integrate it, and so it passes. Other subcultures of course never break through. Regardless, most clothing is purchased from retailers that mass produce things. You could probably tier rank them accordingly from designers to boutiques to small retailers on up to big box shops that you can find anywhere. You see the same thing in other cultural artifacts like cuisine. Haute Cuisine doesn’t start every trend but it isn’t afraid to discover something outside the mainstream, riff on it, and then it works it’s way into the middle.