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> The Iranian Government is trying to destabilize the Middle East including threatening the world with an nuclear program This sounds an awful lot like what th

> The Iranian Government is trying to destabilize the Middle East including threatening the world with an nuclear program This sounds an awful lot like what the American government is and has been doing for a long, long time...In fact, America's nuclear program didn't just threaten the world, but caused actual harm. Where are the international sanctions?

jollybean 5y ago
"America's nuclear program didn't just threaten the world, but caused actual harm. " Which is false of course. It was the key ingredient in ending the worst war the world has ever seen, and since then, major wars have gone by the wayside. Decade by decade in the US-backed world order, there have been fewer and fewer major conflicts. The world is inherently unstable, it's barely held together by somewhat organized powers of which the US is by far the biggest pillar. The world as we know it with open seas, open Panama, Suez, Gulf, peace between Egypt, Israel and Saudi, relative freedom of movement and commerce is an artifact of that order of which the US is the biggest pillar. Without that order (and possibly just without the US alone, as it's hard to know if Europe+Japan+Korea+Aussie etc. could step up in a coordinated way), it would be something completely different, and in almost every scenario, much worse. The Iranian Regime is a toxic entity that literally their own citizens would overthrow in an instant given an opportunity to do so - we're all waiting for the time when they collapse so everyone, especially Iranians citizens such as the author of this article, can move forward and participate in FOSS without getting caught up in geopolitics.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  Saying that the fact that the deaths and mutilation of hundreds of thousands of civilians is harm is "false" is just jaw-dropping in its callousness.

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> The Iranian Government is trying to destabilize the Middle East including threatening the world with an nuclear program This sounds an awful lot like what th

by Ansil849 5y ago

jollybean 5y ago
"America's nuclear program didn't just threaten the world, but caused actual harm. " Which is false of course. It was the key ingredient in ending the worst war the world has ever seen, and since then, major wars have gone by the wayside. Decade by decade in the US-backed world order, there have been fewer and fewer major conflicts. The world is inherently unstable, it's barely held together by somewhat organized powers of which the US is by far the biggest pillar. The world as we know it with open seas, open Panama, Suez, Gulf, peace between Egypt, Israel and Saudi, relative freedom of movement and commerce is an artifact of that order of which the US is the biggest pillar. Without that order (and possibly just without the US alone, as it's hard to know if Europe+Japan+Korea+Aussie etc. could step up in a coordinated way), it would be something completely different, and in almost every scenario, much worse. The Iranian Regime is a toxic entity that literally their own citizens would overthrow in an instant given an opportunity to do so - we're all waiting for the time when they collapse so everyone, especially Iranians citizens such as the author of this article, can move forward and participate in FOSS without getting caught up in geopolitics.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  Saying that the fact that the deaths and mutilation of hundreds of thousands of civilians is harm is "false" is just jaw-dropping in its callousness.