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> ...I really miss the days of when I could load all my accounts into Pidgin (Gaim!) and have almost everything centralized... Me too! I'm very much hoping th

> ...I really miss the days of when I could load all my accounts into Pidgin (Gaim!) and have almost everything centralized... Me too! I'm very much hoping that matrix - the protocol - continues its steady climb (both popularity and adoption), because that is what i see as the future for that kind of experience where if not everything at least lots/most of my comms interactions will be managed on my side by a single "interface". I'm an admitted fanboy of the matrix protocol (as well as matrix apps like Element, FluffyChat, Quaternion, etc.)...so maybe i'm biased, but have you tried playing around with matrix, and its associated apps, to see if it gets you closer to that older Pidgin/Gaim/Adium-like experience? (I'm not affiliated with the matrix org. nor any app/client builder, as noted i'm just a fanboy.)

kbenson 5y ago
I haven't, but I have seen discussions of it here. I'm not sure how it could make the situation any better really unless it can actually interoperate with closed protocols (how?) or actually takes over a significant enough portion of the market that people choose to use it in lieu of hangouts or iMessage or facebook, etc, and there are lots of incentives those use to make that unlikely. In any other case, it's just the XKCD standards meme[1] all over again, in that it might be better in many ways, but I doubt it will actually help market fragmentation. 1: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/ which actually specifically mentions instant messaging.
- mxuribe 5y ago
  You are not wrong that any new entrant might be introducing yet another standard like the referenced xkcd comic...but I have faith that this protocol will be the one that sticks. Time will tell of course. As far as interacting with closed protocols, yes, matrix most definitely accomodates those scenarios using something called "bridges/"bridging" (via a few methods such as puppeting etc.). You should review the following page for more info (yes, there are lots of bridges though quality differs among them): https://matrix.org/bridges/ https://matrix.org/bridges/

kbenson 5y ago

I haven't, but I have seen discussions of it here. I'm not sure how it could make the situation any better really unless it can actually interoperate with closed protocols (how?) or actually takes over a significant enough portion of the market that people choose to use it in lieu of hangouts or iMessage or facebook, etc, and there are lots of incentives those use to make that unlikely. In any other case, it's just the XKCD standards meme[1] all over again, in that it might be better in many ways, but I doubt it will actually help market fragmentation. 1: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/ which actually specifically mentions instant messaging.

mxuribe 5y ago
You are not wrong that any new entrant might be introducing yet another standard like the referenced xkcd comic...but I have faith that this protocol will be the one that sticks. Time will tell of course. As far as interacting with closed protocols, yes, matrix most definitely accomodates those scenarios using something called "bridges/"bridging" (via a few methods such as puppeting etc.). You should review the following page for more info (yes, there are lots of bridges though quality differs among them): https://matrix.org/bridges/ https://matrix.org/bridges/