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My kids (and I) certainly don't see it as exploitation - they love learning to create games, and would be happy to do it even without any chance of payout. I d

My kids (and I) certainly don't see it as exploitation - they love learning to create games, and would be happy to do it even without any chance of payout. I don't think the $1k minimum payout is crazy either, as the overhead of paying 10s of thousands of kids $11.32 would kill margins (leading to Robux having to take a higher %age). I'd have to think most kids are in the same boat as mine - if their games ever earn them any Robux, they'll turn around and spend those Robux in another game, because that's what they want to do with it anyway.

bink 5y ago
Same with me. My kid makes Roblox games for her and her friends. It didn't take her long to realize that the odds of her making any money at all were very slim. In the meantime she gets to learn programming skills in a way that she finds fun. I do feel a bit bad for the older kids that put real effort into it, but I don't see how it's much worse than trying to start a youtube or twitch channel and failing. At least with coding they're getting some valuable experience. All that said, the way they sell "Robux" is absolutely predatory. We've had to have several talks about what is reasonable to spend money on. They even let you pay with Amazon. Payments via Amazon are on by default for Amazon accounts and don't require re-authentication, so a kid who clicks on a link in Roblox on a computer that has already authenticated with Amazon can drain their parent's account.
rtkwe 5y ago
It looks worse when that $1k becomes $350 because Roblox cashes out Robux at a 65% discount for itself after taking nearly 75% of every transaction.
- BigJono 5y ago
  So, to make $350 you need to sell $4000 worth of mtx? That's ludicrous.
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- lupire 5y ago
  Are you sure you aren't double counting?
  - rtkwe 5y ago
    Yeah it's two separate cuts. Watch the video they talk about it there. They take a cut of any sales and then there's the haircut on withdrawing Robux.
thenayr 5y ago
The $1k minimum is kind of the entire argument here though, they are exploiting free labor and making massive profits off of it. So you're basically saying "It's totally fine if Roblox keeps up to $999 in profits from millions of developers (potentially children) because they haven't hit the $1k min." I'm almost certain ANY of these kids would be happier with $100 in cold hard cash in their pockets than they would be with $100 of robox currency. Right now they just have no option.
jonny_eh 5y ago
Do you not see that there's a huge difference between $11.32 and $1000?
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bink 5y ago

Same with me. My kid makes Roblox games for her and her friends. It didn't take her long to realize that the odds of her making any money at all were very slim. In the meantime she gets to learn programming skills in a way that she finds fun. I do feel a bit bad for the older kids that put real effort into it, but I don't see how it's much worse than trying to start a youtube or twitch channel and failing. At least with coding they're getting some valuable experience. All that said, the way they sell "Robux" is absolutely predatory. We've had to have several talks about what is reasonable to spend money on. They even let you pay with Amazon. Payments via Amazon are on by default for Amazon accounts and don't require re-authentication, so a kid who clicks on a link in Roblox on a computer that has already authenticated with Amazon can drain their parent's account.

rtkwe 5y ago

It looks worse when that $1k becomes $350 because Roblox cashes out Robux at a 65% discount for itself after taking nearly 75% of every transaction.

BigJono 5y ago
So, to make $350 you need to sell $4000 worth of mtx? That's ludicrous.
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lupire 5y ago
Are you sure you aren't double counting?
- rtkwe 5y ago
  Yeah it's two separate cuts. Watch the video they talk about it there. They take a cut of any sales and then there's the haircut on withdrawing Robux.

thenayr 5y ago

The $1k minimum is kind of the entire argument here though, they are exploiting free labor and making massive profits off of it. So you're basically saying "It's totally fine if Roblox keeps up to $999 in profits from millions of developers (potentially children) because they haven't hit the $1k min." I'm almost certain ANY of these kids would be happier with $100 in cold hard cash in their pockets than they would be with $100 of robox currency. Right now they just have no option.

jonny_eh 5y ago

Do you not see that there's a huge difference between $11.32 and $1000?

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