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They're also just bad at being phones! Recently Android has taken to popping up the keypad when it thinks it hears the other end ask for a PIN. And that is exac

They're also just bad at being phones! Recently Android has taken to popping up the keypad when it thinks it hears the other end ask for a PIN. And that is exactly before my finger hits the button to open the keypad, resulting in pressing one of the buttons, invalidating my PIN. (This is part of the broader phenomenon of hyperactively rearranging interactive elements of the UI, being unresponsive, but not protecting you from accidentally tapping something you could not have reasonably avoided. UIs should not be able to do unexpected things while also being interactive.) And I think many of us have probably hung up calls with our faces at least once.

el-salvador 5y ago
Didn't know about this. How does it work technically? Does it convert the call from speech to text internally, and opens the keyboard when it hears PIN?
- jrootabega 5y ago
  I don't know about the implementation, but I would imagine it's like the "Now Playing" feature, where the phone has local hashes or ML models for current popular music, or common phrases you might hear on the phone. It could also just be that my phone knows when it's calling voicemail, and maybe there is out of band info telling the phone app that it wants a PIN.
fuzzylightbulb 5y ago
I have been using Android for a very long time and have never had this issue with the phone "popping up the keypad when it thinks it hears the other end ask for a PIN". Occasionally a webpage will be coded such that the cursor is in a text box and so the keyboard will pop up, but this is not an Android problem per se. Maybe my experience is unique but I can't tell you the last time I've hung up a phone with my face or had issues like you describe. I have been using Pixel phones of late and Nexus phones before that. All in all they have been pretty solid for me.
- jrootabega 5y ago
  Interesting...I've also been using it a long time but only noticed it in roughly the last year. Pixel user as well in the US. If I hold 1 to dial voicemail (which calls carrier voicemail via cellular service), when the lady says "Please enter your password," my keypad pops up. If I call somewhere else, it doesn't pop up. I'll have to call someone who can play that clip back to me and see if it's responding to it.

el-salvador 5y ago

Didn't know about this. How does it work technically? Does it convert the call from speech to text internally, and opens the keyboard when it hears PIN?

jrootabega 5y ago
I don't know about the implementation, but I would imagine it's like the "Now Playing" feature, where the phone has local hashes or ML models for current popular music, or common phrases you might hear on the phone. It could also just be that my phone knows when it's calling voicemail, and maybe there is out of band info telling the phone app that it wants a PIN.

fuzzylightbulb 5y ago

I have been using Android for a very long time and have never had this issue with the phone "popping up the keypad when it thinks it hears the other end ask for a PIN". Occasionally a webpage will be coded such that the cursor is in a text box and so the keyboard will pop up, but this is not an Android problem per se. Maybe my experience is unique but I can't tell you the last time I've hung up a phone with my face or had issues like you describe. I have been using Pixel phones of late and Nexus phones before that. All in all they have been pretty solid for me.

jrootabega 5y ago
Interesting...I've also been using it a long time but only noticed it in roughly the last year. Pixel user as well in the US. If I hold 1 to dial voicemail (which calls carrier voicemail via cellular service), when the lady says "Please enter your password," my keypad pops up. If I call somewhere else, it doesn't pop up. I'll have to call someone who can play that clip back to me and see if it's responding to it.