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I don't regret sticking to dumb appliances. I hate Smart TVs with a passion, but they are all you can get nowadays. But I can just throw the TV out the window i

by foxyv 5y ago

I don't regret sticking to dumb appliances. I hate Smart TVs with a passion, but they are all you can get nowadays. But I can just throw the TV out the window if it stops working when I unplug it and continue living just fine. Not so much with my washer, dryer, stove, car and fridge/freezer. I do not look forward to the day you CAN'T buy a non-smart appliance like a fridge or water heater.

nerbert 5y ago
People here regularly recommend a brand of dumb tv that is very reasonable in terms of image quality.
- foxyv 5y ago
  Thank you, I'll keep an eye out!
- domador 5y ago
  Would you mind mentioning the name of that brand? I'm currently looking for a TV.
  - kingaillas 5y ago
    It might be Sceptre (https://www.sceptre.com/ https://www.sceptre.com/). They do make smart TV's (their Android TV line) but their other lines are basically panels.
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    Sceptre tvs are recommended alot, I have one of their moniters personally,it's really good
- deleted 5y ago
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41209 5y ago
You can also just not connect it to the internet.
- foxyv 5y ago
  That is my current strategy. However, don't be surprised if dark patterns start to appear like error messages, warnings, reduced functionality, and outright failure. Sometimes our TV will do pop-ups about needing to update while using the Roku. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ad-Supported appliances that fail after too long without internet. Also, be aware that repairing a purely electrical appliance is fairly simple for most small appliance repair businesses. However smart appliances can be setup to only allow "Authorized" repairs. I've seen this for some electric bikes like Bosch bottom bracket motors where you need specific USB keys to work on or modify them that are VERY expensive.
  - 41209 5y ago
    > Also, be aware that repairing a purely electrical appliance is fairly simple for most small appliance repair businesses. However smart appliances can be setup to only allow "Authorized" repairs. I've seen this for some electric bikes like Bosch bottom bracket motors where you need specific USB keys to work on or modify them that are VERY expensive. This is an entirely different issue. Even if it's a dumb tv, the manufacturer will probably not prioritize repairability. I'm guilty of treating most items as disposable, I assume whenever my $300 TV blows out I'll just need to walk on down to Best Buy and buy a new one.
- LinuxBender 5y ago
  That will be harder in the near future. There are already youtubers showing the dozens of methods devices are using to talk to one another out of band and without user interaction. This guy covers some of the methods in a few of his videos [1]. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/c/BraxMe/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/BraxMe/videos [video list]

by foxyv 5y ago

nerbert 5y ago

People here regularly recommend a brand of dumb tv that is very reasonable in terms of image quality.

foxyv 5y ago
Thank you, I'll keep an eye out!
domador 5y ago
Would you mind mentioning the name of that brand? I'm currently looking for a TV.
- kingaillas 5y ago
  It might be Sceptre (https://www.sceptre.com/ https://www.sceptre.com/). They do make smart TV's (their Android TV line) but their other lines are basically panels.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  Sceptre tvs are recommended alot, I have one of their moniters personally,it's really good
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41209 5y ago

You can also just not connect it to the internet.

foxyv 5y ago
That is my current strategy. However, don't be surprised if dark patterns start to appear like error messages, warnings, reduced functionality, and outright failure. Sometimes our TV will do pop-ups about needing to update while using the Roku. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ad-Supported appliances that fail after too long without internet. Also, be aware that repairing a purely electrical appliance is fairly simple for most small appliance repair businesses. However smart appliances can be setup to only allow "Authorized" repairs. I've seen this for some electric bikes like Bosch bottom bracket motors where you need specific USB keys to work on or modify them that are VERY expensive.
- 41209 5y ago
  > Also, be aware that repairing a purely electrical appliance is fairly simple for most small appliance repair businesses. However smart appliances can be setup to only allow "Authorized" repairs. I've seen this for some electric bikes like Bosch bottom bracket motors where you need specific USB keys to work on or modify them that are VERY expensive. This is an entirely different issue. Even if it's a dumb tv, the manufacturer will probably not prioritize repairability. I'm guilty of treating most items as disposable, I assume whenever my $300 TV blows out I'll just need to walk on down to Best Buy and buy a new one.
LinuxBender 5y ago
That will be harder in the near future. There are already youtubers showing the dozens of methods devices are using to talk to one another out of band and without user interaction. This guy covers some of the methods in a few of his videos [1]. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/c/BraxMe/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/BraxMe/videos [video list]