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Got any pointers you'd be willing to share? I need to lose a similar amount. I don't want to have a heart attack in my 30's or 40's. The existential dread and a

Got any pointers you'd be willing to share? I need to lose a similar amount. I don't want to have a heart attack in my 30's or 40's. The existential dread and a strong hatred of my behavior have done horrible things to my psyche...

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
Like I said, the simple truth is that you must count your calories, with no cheating or excuses. There are several difficult parts in the implementation: Your brain doesn't want you to count calories, nor does the food industry. Your ability to estimate calories is not likely to be very good. I mitigated this by eating almost exclusively pre-packaged and labeled food and intentionally overestimating any time I deviated. Your energy level will suffer, at least at first. You kinda just have to push through this, but caffeine (or other stimulants) can make it a bit easier. It's hard to stay motivated. I found an athletic activity I enjoyed, which provided motivation because bodyweight was a significant limiting factor. It also burns some calories, which helps absorb the blow of any underestimation. Do not allow yourself to count these negative calories in your total, it's just an excuse your brain uses to try and get you to eat more. I also weighed myself every day to ensure I was moving in the right direction, but be careful because water weight can make it seem like you gained or lost a few pounds day-to-day. Oh yeah, your brain will try and trick you into eating more. I can't tell you the number of times I'd somehow managed to convince myself I hadn't actually eaten lunch yet or only had one serving of something. Be on the look out for this. For some reason, the people around you won't like that you're losing weight. It's weird. They'll encourage you to eat more if you go out to eat with them, they'll re-offer you food even after you've already turned it down, they'll try and get you to skip exercise, they might even tell you that you look sick and unhealthy. Unless they're a doctor, ignore them. Actually, even if they are a doctor take it with a grain of salt. When you fuck up, just accept it and move on. If it is a small amount of excess you can make it up by cutting a little harder for a few days after, but if it is big it's best to just pretend it never happened. Once you reach your goal weight the hardest part starts. You have to start bringing your eating habits back to something kinda like normal so you can maintain them forever. You will, unfortunately, never be done. Trust me, the second you let yourself believe you can eat like a regular human being again you'll put on 30lbs and have to work that much harder to get it off. No one you know who hasn't lost a bunch of weight will understand.
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
  > Once you reach your goal weight the hardest part starts. For me it is not that hard. I just allow myself some leniency during the periods when there are many upcoming parties/birthdays/etc and can put in 2-3 kilos. Then I pick a period when there are no such events planned and go to calorie counting routine. Of course, I maintain weighting routine all the time, every day.
- Teknoman117 5y ago
  > Trust me, the second you let yourself believe you can eat like a regular human being again you'll put on 30lbs and have to work that much harder to get it off. I remember my doctor mentioning that. Having been seriously obese will permanently affect your metabolism. You'll burn less calories than you normally would having never been overweight. As far as athletic activity goes, I started playing airsoft after getting vaccinated because my friends are into it as well.
mrcrumb1 5y ago
AnIdiotOnTheNet said a lot of what I'd say, but one thing I'd add is: to lose the ~90 lbs that I did, I had to realize that I would just be hungry for a long time. If I had listened to my normal hunger impulses, I would have kept all of that weight on or gained more, so it meant I had to get really comfortable just being hungry. A lot of meals left me unsatisfied, but eventually your stomach adjusts to the quantity of food you start eating. That doesn't mean, however I didn't get hungry throughout the day. Drinking lots of water and coffee helped in this regard; when it was especially bad, I was drinking a lot more water to keep my mouth busy One last thing I'll add is that impulse control is 1000x easier with good sleep and the weight seem to come off a little faster when I was well rested
Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
Pointers. 1. Install fatsecret (note that it does overestimate your passive calorie burn, it calculated 2500 for me, but in fact it was closer to 2200). If you can't pick the exact product you ate, pick the one with the hightest calorie count. In this case, overestimating works in your favour. 2. Start slowly. Do not start right away with 1500 calories/day, stay near your net zero point for a few days, or a bit lower 3. Then try a bit lower. Lower more, if you can. Repeat every few days. 4. Always pedantically calculate all calories. Kitchen scales are a must for any nonpackaged food with known weight. Often the thought of the necessity to fill in weight and product removes the desire to devour something 5. Respect yourself! DO NOT eat something that you badly want to eat because you are a person who is controlled by his mind, not his desires! YOU are in charge, not your hunger 6. If you BARELY, BADLY need to eat that chocolate, eat it. But not 100g, but 1/8 of it, like 12,5g. AND count it. 7. Try to sleep more. When you sleep, you can't eat. 8. Buckwheat rules, simple to cook and has every mineral you need to stay healthy. On some days i got by by eating 250g of buckwheat and 150g chicken. That's it, do it diligently and your weight will go away SOON. I ate everything, from cured pork fat to chocolat, at any time, not caring for it at all. After 6, noon, midnight, just stayed below the threshold. Good luck. :)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

Like I said, the simple truth is that you must count your calories, with no cheating or excuses. There are several difficult parts in the implementation: Your brain doesn't want you to count calories, nor does the food industry. Your ability to estimate calories is not likely to be very good. I mitigated this by eating almost exclusively pre-packaged and labeled food and intentionally overestimating any time I deviated. Your energy level will suffer, at least at first. You kinda just have to push through this, but caffeine (or other stimulants) can make it a bit easier. It's hard to stay motivated. I found an athletic activity I enjoyed, which provided motivation because bodyweight was a significant limiting factor. It also burns some calories, which helps absorb the blow of any underestimation. Do not allow yourself to count these negative calories in your total, it's just an excuse your brain uses to try and get you to eat more. I also weighed myself every day to ensure I was moving in the right direction, but be careful because water weight can make it seem like you gained or lost a few pounds day-to-day. Oh yeah, your brain will try and trick you into eating more. I can't tell you the number of times I'd somehow managed to convince myself I hadn't actually eaten lunch yet or only had one serving of something. Be on the look out for this. For some reason, the people around you won't like that you're losing weight. It's weird. They'll encourage you to eat more if you go out to eat with them, they'll re-offer you food even after you've already turned it down, they'll try and get you to skip exercise, they might even tell you that you look sick and unhealthy. Unless they're a doctor, ignore them. Actually, even if they are a doctor take it with a grain of salt. When you fuck up, just accept it and move on. If it is a small amount of excess you can make it up by cutting a little harder for a few days after, but if it is big it's best to just pretend it never happened. Once you reach your goal weight the hardest part starts. You have to start bringing your eating habits back to something kinda like normal so you can maintain them forever. You will, unfortunately, never be done. Trust me, the second you let yourself believe you can eat like a regular human being again you'll put on 30lbs and have to work that much harder to get it off. No one you know who hasn't lost a bunch of weight will understand.

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
> Once you reach your goal weight the hardest part starts. For me it is not that hard. I just allow myself some leniency during the periods when there are many upcoming parties/birthdays/etc and can put in 2-3 kilos. Then I pick a period when there are no such events planned and go to calorie counting routine. Of course, I maintain weighting routine all the time, every day.
Teknoman117 5y ago
> Trust me, the second you let yourself believe you can eat like a regular human being again you'll put on 30lbs and have to work that much harder to get it off. I remember my doctor mentioning that. Having been seriously obese will permanently affect your metabolism. You'll burn less calories than you normally would having never been overweight. As far as athletic activity goes, I started playing airsoft after getting vaccinated because my friends are into it as well.

mrcrumb1 5y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet said a lot of what I'd say, but one thing I'd add is: to lose the ~90 lbs that I did, I had to realize that I would just be hungry for a long time. If I had listened to my normal hunger impulses, I would have kept all of that weight on or gained more, so it meant I had to get really comfortable just being hungry. A lot of meals left me unsatisfied, but eventually your stomach adjusts to the quantity of food you start eating. That doesn't mean, however I didn't get hungry throughout the day. Drinking lots of water and coffee helped in this regard; when it was especially bad, I was drinking a lot more water to keep my mouth busy One last thing I'll add is that impulse control is 1000x easier with good sleep and the weight seem to come off a little faster when I was well rested

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago

Pointers. 1. Install fatsecret (note that it does overestimate your passive calorie burn, it calculated 2500 for me, but in fact it was closer to 2200). If you can't pick the exact product you ate, pick the one with the hightest calorie count. In this case, overestimating works in your favour. 2. Start slowly. Do not start right away with 1500 calories/day, stay near your net zero point for a few days, or a bit lower 3. Then try a bit lower. Lower more, if you can. Repeat every few days. 4. Always pedantically calculate all calories. Kitchen scales are a must for any nonpackaged food with known weight. Often the thought of the necessity to fill in weight and product removes the desire to devour something 5. Respect yourself! DO NOT eat something that you badly want to eat because you are a person who is controlled by his mind, not his desires! YOU are in charge, not your hunger 6. If you BARELY, BADLY need to eat that chocolate, eat it. But not 100g, but 1/8 of it, like 12,5g. AND count it. 7. Try to sleep more. When you sleep, you can't eat. 8. Buckwheat rules, simple to cook and has every mineral you need to stay healthy. On some days i got by by eating 250g of buckwheat and 150g chicken. That's it, do it diligently and your weight will go away SOON. I ate everything, from cured pork fat to chocolat, at any time, not caring for it at all. After 6, noon, midnight, just stayed below the threshold. Good luck. :)