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MasterCard doesn’t want to process payments for child pornography which only fans hosts. The argument for payment processors having too much power was had over

MasterCard doesn’t want to process payments for child pornography which only fans hosts. The argument for payment processors having too much power was had over a decade ago when they everybody stopped allowing donations to Wikileaks. No, they shouldn’t have that power, it should be the courts who shut down only fans by jailing the people who work there. But I’m also not going to shed any tears over some people who willfully exploit children losing their ability to make money from it.

GDC7 5y ago
By the same token we should shut down the internet, the USD and also credit cards because CP use them. CP also breath air, time to make it illegal? There is no point foregoing privacy if authorities don't even try to precisely target bad actors but decide to nuke the whole area with a 100 Megaton Tsar Atomic Bomb instead
- StevePerkins 5y ago
  Philosophers and legal theorists over the centuries have have come up with the concept of "proximate cause" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause) for these types of discussions. Essentially, there was recognition that ALL kinds of things could be seen as connected to a bad thing. But for the miners, we would not have extracted the iron ore that was used to make the steel that was used to make the firearm that was used to shoot the victim, etc. So "proximate cause" is a discussion of whether or not the degree of connection is close enough to make the blame ridiculous or not. Not really taking a side in this debate here. Simply pointing out that just coming up with a slew of "but for" causes is not a libertarian trump card for everything. Societies and systems can rightfully draw the line somewhere more reasonable.
dr-detroit 5y ago
wikileaks the terrorists who hate me and their entire contribution to journalism is "did you know people die in wars??? or did i blow your mind please give me more money" give me a break.

GDC7 5y ago

By the same token we should shut down the internet, the USD and also credit cards because CP use them. CP also breath air, time to make it illegal? There is no point foregoing privacy if authorities don't even try to precisely target bad actors but decide to nuke the whole area with a 100 Megaton Tsar Atomic Bomb instead

StevePerkins 5y ago
Philosophers and legal theorists over the centuries have have come up with the concept of "proximate cause" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause) for these types of discussions. Essentially, there was recognition that ALL kinds of things could be seen as connected to a bad thing. But for the miners, we would not have extracted the iron ore that was used to make the steel that was used to make the firearm that was used to shoot the victim, etc. So "proximate cause" is a discussion of whether or not the degree of connection is close enough to make the blame ridiculous or not. Not really taking a side in this debate here. Simply pointing out that just coming up with a slew of "but for" causes is not a libertarian trump card for everything. Societies and systems can rightfully draw the line somewhere more reasonable.

dr-detroit 5y ago

wikileaks the terrorists who hate me and their entire contribution to journalism is "did you know people die in wars??? or did i blow your mind please give me more money" give me a break.