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I've been watching their presentations from time to time. The progress they maid within 1-2 years is incredible. They clearly focused a lot and betting a lot on

by maxdo 5y ago

I've been watching their presentations from time to time. The progress they maid within 1-2 years is incredible. They clearly focused a lot and betting a lot on their approach. Wouldn't be surprised if they'll become a real waymo competitor in 1.5 year. Saying"competitor" I mean real application of robotaxi but with major some issues. Waymo's approach still failing a nose cones on the road for example.

AppleCandy 5y ago
How does Tesla's tech compare with Waymo? I just can't imagine how Waymo or any other company can compete with the first-principles full stack engineering and scaling of Tesla, which touches virtually every important dimension of consideration. And that is today, not even a year from now. The foundation Tesla has built and shown on AI day will progressively increase their lead in the years to come, I just don't see how anyone can compete with that level of forward thinking. To me it just seems obvious, so what am I missing about Waymo?
- criticaltinker 5y ago
  I've been told the consensus on HN is that Waymo is far ahead of Tesla in terms of tech. See this post & discussion from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28236964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28236964
- raisedbyninjas 5y ago
  Waymo and everybody else are only trying to solve one AI problem. Tesla wanted to tackle two at the same time. Maybe they can do it, but its just an extra hurdle that others are stepping around. Also Waymo has had level 4 deployed for years.
  - AtlasBarfed 5y ago
    In geofenced customizer non consumer cars? Tesla/musk self driving claims require extensive independent verification, as do the other fsd wannabes (they are all wannabes right now). I still would like primary focus on highway driving and safety. That is the big efficiency win for logistics and slot easier than urban streets

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I've been watching their presentations from time to time. The progress they maid within 1-2 years is incredible. They clearly focused a lot and betting a lot on

by maxdo 5y ago

AppleCandy 5y ago
How does Tesla's tech compare with Waymo? I just can't imagine how Waymo or any other company can compete with the first-principles full stack engineering and scaling of Tesla, which touches virtually every important dimension of consideration. And that is today, not even a year from now. The foundation Tesla has built and shown on AI day will progressively increase their lead in the years to come, I just don't see how anyone can compete with that level of forward thinking. To me it just seems obvious, so what am I missing about Waymo?
- criticaltinker 5y ago
  I've been told the consensus on HN is that Waymo is far ahead of Tesla in terms of tech. See this post & discussion from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28236964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28236964
- raisedbyninjas 5y ago
  Waymo and everybody else are only trying to solve one AI problem. Tesla wanted to tackle two at the same time. Maybe they can do it, but its just an extra hurdle that others are stepping around. Also Waymo has had level 4 deployed for years.
  - AtlasBarfed 5y ago
    In geofenced customizer non consumer cars? Tesla/musk self driving claims require extensive independent verification, as do the other fsd wannabes (they are all wannabes right now). I still would like primary focus on highway driving and safety. That is the big efficiency win for logistics and slot easier than urban streets