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Me, since years as my main and only OS.

iamnotwhoiam 5y ago
That's very interesting! What work and other activities do you do on it, and how does it compare to the last OS you used full time? I've been curious about BeOS since I read Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning There Was the Command Line", but I'm too young to have ever seen it in action.
- somewhatbetter 5y ago
  >That's very interesting! It is not. We are talking about a tool. An OS never meant to be sexy or visible or distracting or eye candy. It should support and serve the user and only the user. It have no other task. >What work and other activities do you do on it, and how does it compare to the last OS you used full time? Some programming, porting, listening music, organizing files, email, chat. None of this requires a wannabe mainframe OS on desktop, but also way too cumbersome to do it on mobile devices. It works for me. It lets me eliminate most distraction from my life. I maintain the conviction: what not possible with Haiku should not be done at all. >I've been curious about BeOS since I read Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning There Was the Command Line", but I'm too young to have ever seen it in action. I have read it, it is a great example for the bias in the IT: always pick the mediocre solution and kill/ make impossible everything else. Sadly the programmers were always too autistic to understand what the auhor tried to say and the managers only interested in ROI. Therefore we are fucked with *nixes.
  - anthk 5y ago
    TBH Mac OS X merged both the sysadmin and the media production geekdoms -well-.
  - skavi 5y ago
    You've been defending and praising this tool throughout this thread. You work to improve this tool for yourself and others, even though this work wouldn't be necessary if you used a different tool. I can't imagine you are doing any of this professionally. It feels to me that Haiku is as much a hobby as a tool to you. And if that's the case, I think it's fair for others to express interest in said hobby.
    - somewhatbetter 5y ago
      It is a religion.
  - BeFlatXIII 5y ago
    What activities do you find to be not possible on Haikou? > wannabe mainframe OS as a desktop Equally applies of BSD as Linux (but there isn’t as much clamor coming from the FreeBSD desktop crowd).
    - somewhatbetter 5y ago
      I was talking explicitly about BSD and nix.
- eesmith 5y ago
  Time for me to re-read "In the Beginning ...". Here's one quote that stands out: > The BeOS needs a megalomaniacal egomaniac sitting on its throne to give it a human character which everyone loves to hate. Without this, the BeOS will languish in the impersonifiable realm of OSs that people can never quite get a handle on. You can judge the success of an OS not by the quality of its features, but by how infamous and disliked the leaders behind them are. Also, here's BeOS in Stephenson's Cryptonomicon: > Randy types "Finux" and hits the return key. "How many operating systems you have on this thing?" > "Windows 95, for games and when I need to let some lamer borrow my computer temporarily," Avi says. "Windows NT for office type stuff. BeOS for hacking, and screwing around with media. Finux for industrial-strength typesetting." > "Which one do you want now?" > "BeOS. Going to display some JPEGs. I assume there’s an overhead projector in this place?"
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > > "BeOS. Going to display some JPEGs. I assume there’s an overhead projector in this place?" I vaguely recall wondering whether Stephenson was drunk when he wrote that, back when I first read it. Like... As if Windows, both 95 and NT, or "Finux" (can't recall whatever that was; a specific distro, or his codename for Linux in general?) couldn't display JPEG?!? Utterly fricking weird.

That's very interesting! What work and other activities do you do on it, and how does it compare to the last OS you used full time? I've been curious about BeOS since I read Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning There Was the Command Line", but I'm too young to have ever seen it in action.

somewhatbetter 5y ago
>That's very interesting! It is not. We are talking about a tool. An OS never meant to be sexy or visible or distracting or eye candy. It should support and serve the user and only the user. It have no other task. >What work and other activities do you do on it, and how does it compare to the last OS you used full time? Some programming, porting, listening music, organizing files, email, chat. None of this requires a wannabe mainframe OS on desktop, but also way too cumbersome to do it on mobile devices. It works for me. It lets me eliminate most distraction from my life. I maintain the conviction: what not possible with Haiku should not be done at all. >I've been curious about BeOS since I read Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning There Was the Command Line", but I'm too young to have ever seen it in action. I have read it, it is a great example for the bias in the IT: always pick the mediocre solution and kill/ make impossible everything else. Sadly the programmers were always too autistic to understand what the auhor tried to say and the managers only interested in ROI. Therefore we are fucked with *nixes.
- anthk 5y ago
  TBH Mac OS X merged both the sysadmin and the media production geekdoms -well-.
- skavi 5y ago
  You've been defending and praising this tool throughout this thread. You work to improve this tool for yourself and others, even though this work wouldn't be necessary if you used a different tool. I can't imagine you are doing any of this professionally. It feels to me that Haiku is as much a hobby as a tool to you. And if that's the case, I think it's fair for others to express interest in said hobby.
  - somewhatbetter 5y ago
    It is a religion.
- BeFlatXIII 5y ago
  What activities do you find to be not possible on Haikou? > wannabe mainframe OS as a desktop Equally applies of BSD as Linux (but there isn’t as much clamor coming from the FreeBSD desktop crowd).
  - somewhatbetter 5y ago
    I was talking explicitly about BSD and nix.
eesmith 5y ago
Time for me to re-read "In the Beginning ...". Here's one quote that stands out: > The BeOS needs a megalomaniacal egomaniac sitting on its throne to give it a human character which everyone loves to hate. Without this, the BeOS will languish in the impersonifiable realm of OSs that people can never quite get a handle on. You can judge the success of an OS not by the quality of its features, but by how infamous and disliked the leaders behind them are. Also, here's BeOS in Stephenson's Cryptonomicon: > Randy types "Finux" and hits the return key. "How many operating systems you have on this thing?" > "Windows 95, for games and when I need to let some lamer borrow my computer temporarily," Avi says. "Windows NT for office type stuff. BeOS for hacking, and screwing around with media. Finux for industrial-strength typesetting." > "Which one do you want now?" > "BeOS. Going to display some JPEGs. I assume there’s an overhead projector in this place?"
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > > "BeOS. Going to display some JPEGs. I assume there’s an overhead projector in this place?" I vaguely recall wondering whether Stephenson was drunk when he wrote that, back when I first read it. Like... As if Windows, both 95 and NT, or "Finux" (can't recall whatever that was; a specific distro, or his codename for Linux in general?) couldn't display JPEG?!? Utterly fricking weird.