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How is this different than former black water or other numerous military contractors supported by their respective governments. These outfits should be generall

How is this different than former black water or other numerous military contractors supported by their respective governments. These outfits should be generally banned.

Rebelgecko 5y ago
The article explicitly contrasts them against Blackwater. Especially by comparing the relationship to the host country. Blackwater doesn't get supplied with tanks, Predator drones, etc by the US Army. AFAIK they're also open about where they're operating, and the US admits that they have contracts. I think there would be hell to pay if Blackwater got caught planting landmines in residential areas
- christkv 5y ago
  Semantics if a mercenary company is allowed to operate as a business it’s implicitly condoned by a government. https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/2031922/mercenaries-and-war-understanding-private-armies-today/ https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/2031922/mercenar... They should all be banned no matter if they are called black water or Wagner.
  - Rebelgecko 5y ago
    Can you elaborate? The article seems to make a distinction between companies like Blackwater and "illegal mercenaries" like Wagner.
    - new_guy 5y ago
      Whether it's "illegal" or not depends on which side you're looking at it from.
- N1H1L 5y ago
  This article may contrast with Academi/Blackwater, but several others (including Erik Prince himself) acknowledge the similarities. References: [0] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nlt5lmbTd8q9tlW26zJbT?si=CHqd8hNTSm6ASV7rjLIkvQ&nd=1 https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nlt5lmbTd8q9tlW26zJbT?si=C... [1] https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-mercenary-wagner-libya-mozambique/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-merce... [2] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/10/the-world-first-jihadi-private-military-contractor-syria-russia-malhama-tactical/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/10/the-world-first-jihadi-... [3] https://www.deepstateblog.org/2019/01/30/inside-wagner-the-russian-version-of-blackwater/ https://www.deepstateblog.org/2019/01/30/inside-wagner-the-r...
N1H1L 5y ago
They are not. Erik Prince tried to hook up with them 2 years back.[0] [0] https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-mercenary-wagner-libya-mozambique/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-merce...

How is this different than former black water or other numerous military contractors supported by their respective governments. These outfits should be generally banned.

Rebelgecko 5y ago

The article explicitly contrasts them against Blackwater. Especially by comparing the relationship to the host country. Blackwater doesn't get supplied with tanks, Predator drones, etc by the US Army. AFAIK they're also open about where they're operating, and the US admits that they have contracts. I think there would be hell to pay if Blackwater got caught planting landmines in residential areas

christkv 5y ago
Semantics if a mercenary company is allowed to operate as a business it’s implicitly condoned by a government. https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/2031922/mercenaries-and-war-understanding-private-armies-today/ https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/2031922/mercenar... They should all be banned no matter if they are called black water or Wagner.
- Rebelgecko 5y ago
  Can you elaborate? The article seems to make a distinction between companies like Blackwater and "illegal mercenaries" like Wagner.
  - new_guy 5y ago
    Whether it's "illegal" or not depends on which side you're looking at it from.
N1H1L 5y ago
This article may contrast with Academi/Blackwater, but several others (including Erik Prince himself) acknowledge the similarities. References: [0] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nlt5lmbTd8q9tlW26zJbT?si=CHqd8hNTSm6ASV7rjLIkvQ&nd=1 https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nlt5lmbTd8q9tlW26zJbT?si=C... [1] https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-mercenary-wagner-libya-mozambique/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-merce... [2] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/10/the-world-first-jihadi-private-military-contractor-syria-russia-malhama-tactical/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/10/the-world-first-jihadi-... [3] https://www.deepstateblog.org/2019/01/30/inside-wagner-the-russian-version-of-blackwater/ https://www.deepstateblog.org/2019/01/30/inside-wagner-the-r...

N1H1L 5y ago

They are not. Erik Prince tried to hook up with them 2 years back.[0] [0] https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-mercenary-wagner-libya-mozambique/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/13/erik-prince-russia-merce...