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I'm still befuddled what the industrial applications are. At some point a car factory had people moving stuff around and screwing things in and out. Now we hav

I'm still befuddled what the industrial applications are. At some point a car factory had people moving stuff around and screwing things in and out. Now we have arm robots and conveyor belts and other machines which do not resemble humans at all but are obviously way better. We still have humans involved but I think the best way to minimize how often they are on the floor is with better specialized tools. I feel this is the equivalent of building a robot to be your rickshaw driver instead of just realizing you can build a self driving vehicle with nothing that resembles a human invovled.

autoexec 5y ago
I don't think all robots need to be 1:1 replicas of humans but you might be underselling versatility. One robot for every specific task might be a good idea in some places where as in others it might be better to have robots capable of performing several types of tasks giving you the freedom to assign them to different roles as needed. It cuts down on the number of robots (and back up robots) you need to keep available. A more human form would allow for that versatility and allow for easier interaction with the world and the items within it which we've built with accommodation of our own bodies in mind. I am generally a fan of the 'do one thing and do it well' type of philosophy though and ideally we'll have a mix of specialized machines and general purpose ones.
postingawayonhn 5y ago
> We still have humans involved but I think the best way to minimize how often they are on the floor is with better specialized tools. Tesla tried this and it was a disaster. They had to rip a bunch of their robots out and replace them with humans. There's still a ton of really fiddly tasks that specialized robots find really hard to do.
- handmodel 5y ago
  I'm sure there are but why would another robot be better? If the problem is something like the dexterity of a stationary arm machine isn't good enough - I'm having trouble believing the dexterity of a moving humanoid machine would be different at all.
legostormtroopr 5y ago
Converting supermarkets to dark stores. Supermarket by day, robot driven fulfillment centre by night. Using humaoids to pushing and fetching items from a human-centric store.
- handmodel 5y ago
  I've been wrong many times before but still have trouble believing this would be more efficient than just having two separate buildings. Even in places where land is very expensive. How many dark stores would you have to run in a city like Boston to get the same efficiency you could get from a signle warehouse with a similar system to this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE And if you insist on doing that multi-use concept - it still seems like a robot on wheels and with much different than human arms would be more efficient.

autoexec 5y ago

I don't think all robots need to be 1:1 replicas of humans but you might be underselling versatility. One robot for every specific task might be a good idea in some places where as in others it might be better to have robots capable of performing several types of tasks giving you the freedom to assign them to different roles as needed. It cuts down on the number of robots (and back up robots) you need to keep available. A more human form would allow for that versatility and allow for easier interaction with the world and the items within it which we've built with accommodation of our own bodies in mind. I am generally a fan of the 'do one thing and do it well' type of philosophy though and ideally we'll have a mix of specialized machines and general purpose ones.

postingawayonhn 5y ago

> We still have humans involved but I think the best way to minimize how often they are on the floor is with better specialized tools. Tesla tried this and it was a disaster. They had to rip a bunch of their robots out and replace them with humans. There's still a ton of really fiddly tasks that specialized robots find really hard to do.

handmodel 5y ago
I'm sure there are but why would another robot be better? If the problem is something like the dexterity of a stationary arm machine isn't good enough - I'm having trouble believing the dexterity of a moving humanoid machine would be different at all.

legostormtroopr 5y ago

Converting supermarkets to dark stores. Supermarket by day, robot driven fulfillment centre by night. Using humaoids to pushing and fetching items from a human-centric store.

handmodel 5y ago
I've been wrong many times before but still have trouble believing this would be more efficient than just having two separate buildings. Even in places where land is very expensive. How many dark stores would you have to run in a city like Boston to get the same efficiency you could get from a signle warehouse with a similar system to this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZ_8cqfBlE And if you insist on doing that multi-use concept - it still seems like a robot on wheels and with much different than human arms would be more efficient.