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Bottom line, robots coming soon. He's slowly building out the roadmap for the labor pool, transportation, communications system and so on for the colonization

by bane 5y ago

Bottom line, robots coming soon. He's slowly building out the roadmap for the labor pool, transportation, communications system and so on for the colonization of Mars.

dragontamer 5y ago
They were supposed to do coast to coast self driving years ago according to these hype videos https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-coast-to-coast-autonomous-drive/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-coast-to-coast-auto... Hard to take them seriously given how much hype they generate each year.
- fastball 5y ago
  Accurate hardware/software development timelines are an unsolved problem. To me, the question is: is the technology getting better over time? And from what I've seen I would answer that question with a resounding yes.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    > Accurate hardware/software development timelines are an unsolved problem Then why is it sold as a $10,000 full self driving package?
    - fastball 5y ago
      Tesla is selling a $10k hardware package, with the promise that eventually they'll have the software to match. Musk makes lots of optimistic predictions which are not hard deadlines. There is no actual guaranteed timeline in the terms that come along with the FSD package, AFAIK. It is made explicit that the software required to utilize the hardware you are purchasing is not ready yet.
      - dragontamer 5y ago
        And what are the chances that the $5k hardware packages they sold in 2016 are up to the challenge, when these $10k hardware packages they have are a few orders of magnitude faster? Same thing come 2026: Tesla will almost surely have new hardware for that time, and I'm willing to bet that FSD still will be a vaporware product and incomplete. If it happened over the past 5 years, history tends to repeat and I can make the same bet will happen in 5 years into the future.
- tim333 5y ago
  When you are doing innovative stuff that's never been done before like FSD it must be near impossible to get an accurate timeline. I guess they maybe need to do a bit of hype for the investors.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    When you're selling "Full Self Driving" in 2016 for $5000, I think its reasonable for people to want results in 2021. Especially when there are people getting beheaded on the road running into trucks and emergency vehicles.
whymauri 5y ago
How much would you be willing to bet that any of the roadmaps you listed succeed and within which timescale? Because I'm nearly certain none of them will succeed, given they're run by Elon Musk.

by bane 5y ago

Bottom line, robots coming soon. He's slowly building out the roadmap for the labor pool, transportation, communications system and so on for the colonization of Mars.

dragontamer 5y ago

They were supposed to do coast to coast self driving years ago according to these hype videos https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-coast-to-coast-autonomous-drive/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-coast-to-coast-auto... Hard to take them seriously given how much hype they generate each year.

fastball 5y ago
Accurate hardware/software development timelines are an unsolved problem. To me, the question is: is the technology getting better over time? And from what I've seen I would answer that question with a resounding yes.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  > Accurate hardware/software development timelines are an unsolved problem Then why is it sold as a $10,000 full self driving package?
  - fastball 5y ago
    Tesla is selling a $10k hardware package, with the promise that eventually they'll have the software to match. Musk makes lots of optimistic predictions which are not hard deadlines. There is no actual guaranteed timeline in the terms that come along with the FSD package, AFAIK. It is made explicit that the software required to utilize the hardware you are purchasing is not ready yet.
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      And what are the chances that the $5k hardware packages they sold in 2016 are up to the challenge, when these $10k hardware packages they have are a few orders of magnitude faster? Same thing come 2026: Tesla will almost surely have new hardware for that time, and I'm willing to bet that FSD still will be a vaporware product and incomplete. If it happened over the past 5 years, history tends to repeat and I can make the same bet will happen in 5 years into the future.
tim333 5y ago
When you are doing innovative stuff that's never been done before like FSD it must be near impossible to get an accurate timeline. I guess they maybe need to do a bit of hype for the investors.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  When you're selling "Full Self Driving" in 2016 for $5000, I think its reasonable for people to want results in 2021. Especially when there are people getting beheaded on the road running into trucks and emergency vehicles.

whymauri 5y ago

How much would you be willing to bet that any of the roadmaps you listed succeed and within which timescale? Because I'm nearly certain none of them will succeed, given they're run by Elon Musk.