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The food pyramid used in the western world misled people to believe fruit is a necessary component of a diet. It absolutely isn't. Vegetables give you all the d

The food pyramid used in the western world misled people to believe fruit is a necessary component of a diet. It absolutely isn't. Vegetables give you all the dietary components without the high amounts of sugar. And if you eliminate all simple sugars / obvious bad carbs from your diet, then eventually stuff like sauteed carrots / corn, beets, etc. starts to taste 'sweet' to your reset tastebuds.

chapium 5y ago
Produce literally tastes different in the US when compared to other countries. My guess is that these shelf stable varieties which are more bland aren’t used elsewhere.
caeril 5y ago
To say nothing of the fact that modern "fruits" bear little resemblance to the fruit available to us through much of our evolutionary history. We've bred, selected, and engineered "fruit" for sweetness, size, yield, and color to an enormous extent over the past 500 years or so, with the majority of that acceleration occurring in the last 100.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  AND bred the fiber entirely out of, specifically, grapes. Remarkably, no other fruit lacks fiber.
phonypc 5y ago
To be clear, carrots, corn and beets taste sweet because of not-insignificant amounts of simple sugars. Especially cooked.
asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
While that may be true, I don't think most American sugar consumption comes from fruits. I guess if Americans switched to snacking on fruit rather than processed foods, even if we ate the same mass of snack food, it would be good for the average person's diet. There's no need to demonize fruit at this juncture -- maybe later when that is the most unhealthy thing people are eating. (Personally I'm on a kick-the-dad-bod diet right now -- all I've done is try to eat 2x as much veg each meal, stop drinking, switch most snacking to apples, and put a little quarter cup measure in any bags of snack food I happen to have in the house. Down 13lb since early July on a not terribly fat baseline. For me, fruits have been very helpful as they seem to give a good contribution to satiety, while being less calorically intense than what I was snacking on before.)
CaptainSandwich 5y ago
This study is about consuming HFCS by itself. My understanding, at least based on the studies referenced in “How Not to Die”, is that the fiber in fruit more than makes up for the high sugar content. I agree in general, though, that much of the processed food we get in the US is oversweetened or oversalted, and it totally distorts the palate.
cableshaft 5y ago
Maybe not necessary, but one type of fruit you should probably still consider are berries. Most are pretty low carb but pack a lot of nutrients in them. I'm on a pretty big blackberry kick myself right now (having at least one serving a day). Even keto diets allow for eating berries in moderation. That's actually how I started getting into eating berries again, when I was doing keto (I'm not currently). https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/fruits https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/fruits
hack-news 5y ago
This is the worst diet advice I've ever read. The problem is not corn, carrots, or beets in any person's diet. I eat fruit all the time, 2-3 types a day, and I am very strong and physically fit.

chapium 5y ago

Produce literally tastes different in the US when compared to other countries. My guess is that these shelf stable varieties which are more bland aren’t used elsewhere.

caeril 5y ago

To say nothing of the fact that modern "fruits" bear little resemblance to the fruit available to us through much of our evolutionary history. We've bred, selected, and engineered "fruit" for sweetness, size, yield, and color to an enormous extent over the past 500 years or so, with the majority of that acceleration occurring in the last 100.

ncmncm 5y ago
AND bred the fiber entirely out of, specifically, grapes. Remarkably, no other fruit lacks fiber.

phonypc 5y ago

To be clear, carrots, corn and beets taste sweet because of not-insignificant amounts of simple sugars. Especially cooked.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago

While that may be true, I don't think most American sugar consumption comes from fruits. I guess if Americans switched to snacking on fruit rather than processed foods, even if we ate the same mass of snack food, it would be good for the average person's diet. There's no need to demonize fruit at this juncture -- maybe later when that is the most unhealthy thing people are eating. (Personally I'm on a kick-the-dad-bod diet right now -- all I've done is try to eat 2x as much veg each meal, stop drinking, switch most snacking to apples, and put a little quarter cup measure in any bags of snack food I happen to have in the house. Down 13lb since early July on a not terribly fat baseline. For me, fruits have been very helpful as they seem to give a good contribution to satiety, while being less calorically intense than what I was snacking on before.)

CaptainSandwich 5y ago

This study is about consuming HFCS by itself. My understanding, at least based on the studies referenced in “How Not to Die”, is that the fiber in fruit more than makes up for the high sugar content. I agree in general, though, that much of the processed food we get in the US is oversweetened or oversalted, and it totally distorts the palate.

cableshaft 5y ago

Maybe not necessary, but one type of fruit you should probably still consider are berries. Most are pretty low carb but pack a lot of nutrients in them. I'm on a pretty big blackberry kick myself right now (having at least one serving a day). Even keto diets allow for eating berries in moderation. That's actually how I started getting into eating berries again, when I was doing keto (I'm not currently). https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/fruits https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/fruits

hack-news 5y ago

This is the worst diet advice I've ever read. The problem is not corn, carrots, or beets in any person's diet. I eat fruit all the time, 2-3 types a day, and I am very strong and physically fit.