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Ohh, the irony: NoSql - because SQL is bad and we thought of fixing it! Fast forward some years into the future, current times - NoSql gets its, you guessed it,

Ohh, the irony: NoSql - because SQL is bad and we thought of fixing it! Fast forward some years into the future, current times - NoSql gets its, you guessed it, SQL back. Can someone help me stop laughing at this, please? Nevermind, it looks like a waste of time.

alnayyir 15y ago
Non-relational databases have nothing to do with SQL, they have to do with trade-offs in data structures, consistency, availability, fault-tolerance, and distribution. You need to understand how ignorant you are, because until you do you're going to have a calcified and incomplete understanding of databases.
- kermitthehermit 15y ago
  Quite the opposite, I clearly recall some people from the NoSQL camp (read non-relational data stores, non SQL enabled) saying that SQL itself is bad and something else is needed. I should have mentioned this before the zealots kicked in.
  - alnayyir 15y ago
    > I clearly recall some people from the NoSQL camp (read non-relational data stores, non SQL enabled) saying that SQL itself is bad and something else is needed No, wrong, irrelevant, who said this?
    - kermitthehermit 15y ago
      I know it's wrong, you'll have to kill me to make me stop using SQL. I wish I still had the article from 2009 - 2010 which said that SQL is too difficult and other things like that. Anyway, this is what I was talking about when I originally replied.
      - alnayyir 15y ago
        I'm fond of SQL, you're either intentionally misinterpreting me or I'm not being clear. Non-relational databases are not about not using SQL, to believe so is dense and willfully ignorant. I asked for specifics, you didn't provide them. I have to assume you're a troll at this point. I'm done here.
        kermitthehermit 15y ago
        Ok, maybe I didn't use the right words or something: There was an article from someone in the NoSQL camp which said that SQL is bad. I DO and DID understand that the querying language isn't restricted to relational databases. What I was saying I REMEMBER reading something a while ago on the website of a NoSQL store or in an article which said something along the lines: "SQL is old and should be deprecated anyway, it was time for something new" THAT was why I was amused. If you think I was trolling or anything, ok, I'll just stop commenting on this site. It's not worth the trouble at all. This is my last comment. edit: I think this was it: http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse...

alnayyir 15y ago

Non-relational databases have nothing to do with SQL, they have to do with trade-offs in data structures, consistency, availability, fault-tolerance, and distribution. You need to understand how ignorant you are, because until you do you're going to have a calcified and incomplete understanding of databases.

kermitthehermit 15y ago
Quite the opposite, I clearly recall some people from the NoSQL camp (read non-relational data stores, non SQL enabled) saying that SQL itself is bad and something else is needed. I should have mentioned this before the zealots kicked in.
- alnayyir 15y ago
  > I clearly recall some people from the NoSQL camp (read non-relational data stores, non SQL enabled) saying that SQL itself is bad and something else is needed No, wrong, irrelevant, who said this?
  - kermitthehermit 15y ago
    I know it's wrong, you'll have to kill me to make me stop using SQL. I wish I still had the article from 2009 - 2010 which said that SQL is too difficult and other things like that. Anyway, this is what I was talking about when I originally replied.
    - alnayyir 15y ago
      I'm fond of SQL, you're either intentionally misinterpreting me or I'm not being clear. Non-relational databases are not about not using SQL, to believe so is dense and willfully ignorant. I asked for specifics, you didn't provide them. I have to assume you're a troll at this point. I'm done here.
      - kermitthehermit 15y ago
        Ok, maybe I didn't use the right words or something: There was an article from someone in the NoSQL camp which said that SQL is bad. I DO and DID understand that the querying language isn't restricted to relational databases. What I was saying I REMEMBER reading something a while ago on the website of a NoSQL store or in an article which said something along the lines: "SQL is old and should be deprecated anyway, it was time for something new" THAT was why I was amused. If you think I was trolling or anything, ok, I'll just stop commenting on this site. It's not worth the trouble at all. This is my last comment. edit: I think this was it: http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse...