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I think you're really fundamentally misunderstanding treatment modalities that allow people to be better, because you're conflating having an injury with weakne

I think you're really fundamentally misunderstanding treatment modalities that allow people to be better, because you're conflating having an injury with weakness. Ex-soldiers with PTSD are one of the best studied. > A wide body of anecdotal evidence and scientific studies reflects what many already suspected—animal companionship can help support positive outcomes in physical and mental health. https://www.dav.org/veterans/resources/service-animals/ https://www.dav.org/veterans/resources/service-animals/ > Mixed model analyses revealed clinically significant reductions in PTSD symptoms from baseline following the receipt of a service dog, but not while receiving usual care alone. Though clinically meaningful, average reductions were not below the diagnostic cutoff on the PTSD Checklist. Regression analyses revealed significant differences with medium to large effect sizes among those with service dogs compared to those on the waitlist, including lower depression, higher quality of life, and higher social functioning. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5788288/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5788288/ So either you doubt the realism of PTSD, or you believe that a studied treatment modality is weakness. That begs the question, what is a treatment that doesn't foster weakness? Because I'll guarantee the military tried it for decades and the suicide rate reflects that. I do note you didn't mention PTSD, so if you would like to move the goalposts, my response is this: Mental illnesses and their effective treatments don't care about whether you believe in them or not.

dotcommand 5y ago
> I think you're really fundamentally misunderstanding treatment modalities that allow people to be better, because you're conflating having an injury with weakness. I don't think the white woman with an emotional support dog who got the black man kicked off the flight had any ptsd. > Ex-soldiers with PTSD are one of the best studied. Do they need animals to serve as their crutch to go everywhere? Don't think so. I have plenty of ex-soldiers in my family. None of them ever had an emotional support animal. > So either you doubt the realism of PTSD No. I think people can have traumatic experiences. Pretty much everyone deals with it and moves on with thier lives like they have throughout history. The "business" around PTSD is what I have an issue with. > That begs the question, what is a treatment that doesn't foster weakness? Might want to look up what "begs the question" really means. > Mental illnesses and their effective treatments don't care about whether you believe in them or not. Right. Good one. You obviously didn't read the article and just want to peddle more weakness justification or virtue signal or have financial incentives to respond the way you did.
- taurath 5y ago
  > Pretty much everyone deals with it and moves on with thier lives like they have throughout history. On what basis do you draw this conclusion from? > Do they need animals to serve as their crutch to go everywhere? Don't think so Are you their doctor? > You obviously didn't read the article I did. Service animals + allergies are definitely a problem. Saying service animals aren't useful is your unjustified opinion. > just want to peddle more weakness justification or virtue signal or have financial incentives I have PTSD. I have friends who have benefited from service animals. I have considered one. Weakness justification is a frankly offensive phrase for those who are seeking treatment for their ailment. Why isn't the person who has allergies also fostering weakness?
- dang 5y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. Flamewar like this is not cool, and using HN primarily for ideological battle is something we ban accounts for—regardless of which flavor they favor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - taurath 5y ago
    Apologies for the bit of contribution myself, not really my intention ^^

dotcommand 5y ago

> I think you're really fundamentally misunderstanding treatment modalities that allow people to be better, because you're conflating having an injury with weakness. I don't think the white woman with an emotional support dog who got the black man kicked off the flight had any ptsd. > Ex-soldiers with PTSD are one of the best studied. Do they need animals to serve as their crutch to go everywhere? Don't think so. I have plenty of ex-soldiers in my family. None of them ever had an emotional support animal. > So either you doubt the realism of PTSD No. I think people can have traumatic experiences. Pretty much everyone deals with it and moves on with thier lives like they have throughout history. The "business" around PTSD is what I have an issue with. > That begs the question, what is a treatment that doesn't foster weakness? Might want to look up what "begs the question" really means. > Mental illnesses and their effective treatments don't care about whether you believe in them or not. Right. Good one. You obviously didn't read the article and just want to peddle more weakness justification or virtue signal or have financial incentives to respond the way you did.

taurath 5y ago
> Pretty much everyone deals with it and moves on with thier lives like they have throughout history. On what basis do you draw this conclusion from? > Do they need animals to serve as their crutch to go everywhere? Don't think so Are you their doctor? > You obviously didn't read the article I did. Service animals + allergies are definitely a problem. Saying service animals aren't useful is your unjustified opinion. > just want to peddle more weakness justification or virtue signal or have financial incentives I have PTSD. I have friends who have benefited from service animals. I have considered one. Weakness justification is a frankly offensive phrase for those who are seeking treatment for their ailment. Why isn't the person who has allergies also fostering weakness?
dang 5y ago
We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. Flamewar like this is not cool, and using HN primarily for ideological battle is something we ban accounts for—regardless of which flavor they favor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- taurath 5y ago
  Apologies for the bit of contribution myself, not really my intention ^^